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    Ïðîñòî ÷îâåê Dr. P's Avatar
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    Question Çàùî áèîñúò âèæäà 4096Ìá ïàìåò, à 32 áèòîâàòà îïåðàöèîííà ñèòåìà - 2048?

    Èçâåñòíî ìè å, ÷å òîçè âúïðîñ å äèñêóòèðàí. Çàïîçíàò ñúì íàé-îáùî è ñ åñòåñòâîòî íà ïðîáëåìà, êàêòî è ñ íà÷èíà çà íåãîâîòî îêîí÷àòåëíî ðåøåíèå, íî âñå ïàê äà ïîïèòàì.
    Ñèòóàöèÿòà å òàêàâà.
    Äúíî ASUS Ð5Â rev. 1.4g
    RAM - 4x1024 Corsair XMS2 @DDR2 750 5-5-5-12
    CPU - E4300 @ 2700 9x300
    Íà äúíîòî å àêòèâèðàíà memory remapping ôóíêöèÿòà è ïðè ñòàðòèðàíå ÁÈÎÑ-úò ïîêàçâà 4096Ìá ïàìåò.
    Windows Vista 32bit u WinXP 32bit îáà÷å âèæäàò ñàìî 2048 Ìá ïàìåò. Êàòî êàçâàì, ÷å ïðîáëåìúò ìè å èçâåñòåí, î÷àêâàõ, ÷å óèíäîóñèòå ùå âèäÿò îêîëî 3Ãá ÐÀÌ. Çàùî îáà÷å âèæäàò 2Ãá, òîâà å çàãàäú÷íî çà ìåí
    Çíàì ñúùî, ÷å ðåøåíèåòî å 64 áèòîâà îïåðàöèîííà ñèñòåìà, íî âñå ïàê çàùî 32 áèòîâàòà íå âèæäà î÷àêâàíèòå 3 Ãá?
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    Îñîáåíîñò íà îïåðàöèîíêàòà å òîâà.
    Çà ïðîòîêîëà: Ïðè XP ñå îïðàâÿõà òàêà
    Åòî è çà Âèñòà http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

    Â êîíòåêñòà íà âúïðîñà òè íà ïî-ãîðíèÿ àäðåñ ïèøå ñëåäíîòî:
    The reduction in available system memory depends on the devices that are installed in the computer. However, to avoid potential driver compatibility issues, the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory to 3.12 GB. See the "More information" section for information about potential driver compatibility issues.

    If a computer has many installed devices, the available memory may be reduced to 3 GB or less. However, the maximum memory available in 32-bit versions of Windows Vista is typically 3.12 GB.
    Ìîãà ñàìî äà ãàäàÿ äàëè òè å òàêúâ ñëó÷àÿ
    Last edited by The Penalty; 7th May 2007 at 10:43.

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    The Penalty, ìíîãî òè áëàãîäàðÿ. Ùå ïðîáâàì ðåøåíèåòî, ïðåäè äà ñêà÷àì íà 64 áèòîâàòà Âèñòà, ÷å íåùî ìå ïðèòåñíÿâà ïðîáëåìúò ñ äðàéâúðèòå.
    Òîâà ìàêñèìàëíî ìå èçêåôè:
    WORKAROUND
    For Windows Vista to use all 4 GB of memory on a computer that has 4 GB of memory installed, the computer must meet the following requirements:
    • The chipset must support at least 8 GB of address space. Chipsets that have this capability include the following:• Intel 975X
    • Intel P965
    • Intel 955X on Socket 775
    • Chipsets that support AMD processors that use socket F, socket 940, socket 939, or socket AM2. These chipsets include any AMD socket and CPU combination in which the memory controller resides in the CPU.

    • The CPU must support the x64 instruction set. The AMD64 CPU and the Intel EM64T CPU support this instruction set.
    • The BIOS must support the memory remapping feature. The memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. This feature must be enabled in the BIOS configuration utility on the computer. View your computer product documentation for instructions that explain how to enable this feature. Many consumer-oriented computers may not support the memory remapping feature. No standard terminology is used in documentation or in BIOS configuration utilities for this feature. Therefore, you may have to read the descriptions of the various BIOS configuration settings that are available to determine whether any of the settings enable the memory remapping feature.

    Èç÷èòàø âñè÷êî â î÷àêâàíå íà ðåøåíèå è íàêðàÿ òè êàçâàò

    • An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used.
    Last edited by Dr. P; 7th May 2007 at 10:54.
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    Dr.P 64 áèòîâèÿ ÕÐ ïîäúðæà 128ãá ôèçè÷åêà è 16ÒÁ âèðòóàëíà ïàìåò,òàêà ÷å íå å çàäúëæèòåëíî äà ìèíàâàø íà Êèñòà.
    Íå îòãîâàðÿì íà íåãðàìîòíè ïîñòîâå. Äà èçòèêàìå HWBG ïàïëà÷òà! Êîïèðàéòå ãî â ïîäïèñà ñè, çà äà ñè âúðíåì ôîðóìà.
    Èìàì ñè áëîã è ñè ëàÿ â íåãî

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    Ìàëêî îôô îò òåìàòà,íî àç êàòî òåñòâàõ 32áèò XP ñúñ 4ÃÁ ÐÀÌ â BIOS ìè ðàçïîçíàâàøå 4ÃÁ,ïðîãðàìèòå êàòî CPUz ñúùî 4ÃÁ,à Windows-a 3.25ÃÁ.Çíàì è àç,÷å íå ïîääúðæà ïîâå÷å îò 3ÃÁ àìà ìè áåøå ñòðàííî êàê òî÷íî ïúê 3.25 ùå ðàçïîçíàå,à íå 3.À òîâà çà 2ÃÁ ñàìî äà âèæäà - ñòðàííî ìîÿ Windows å äîñòà îìàçàí îò NForce2 äî NForce 4 å ñòèãíàë è íÿìàøå ïðîáëåìè äà âèäè íàä 3ÃÁ.
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    Äð. Ð öÿëàòà äðàìà ñ 4-òå ãèãàáàéòà å ñâúðçàíà ñ ÷èïñåòà òè ÿâíî.

    Ïîëçâàíåòî íà PAE feature, êîÿòî ÿ èìà îò Ïåíòèóì Ïðî ïîçâîëÿâà äà ñå ïîëçâàò 32 ãèãàáàéòà, ÍÎ ÑÀÌÎ ÑÏÅÖÈÀËÍÎ ÏÐÅÊÎÌÏÈËÈÐÀÍÈ ïðîãðàìè ìîãàò äà ïîëçâàò òîâà ïðîñòðàíñòâî

    È òàÿ êðèâà Âèñòà ìîãàò äà ñè ÿ çàâðàò òå ñè çíàÿò êúäå. Ãëåäàõ êè÷à ïðåä Íàðîäíèÿ Òåàòúð è ìè ñå äîäðàéôà.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Penalty View Post
    Îñîáåíîñò íà îïåðàöèîíêàòà å òîâà.
    Çà ïðîòîêîëà: Ïðè XP ñå îïðàâÿõà òàêà
    Åòî è çà Âèñòà http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

    Â êîíòåêñòà íà âúïðîñà òè íà ïî-ãîðíèÿ àäðåñ ïèøå ñëåäíîòî:


    Ìîãà ñàìî äà ãàäàÿ äàëè òè å òàêúâ ñëó÷àÿ

    íåêà ïúðâî ñå èçâèíÿ çà èçêîïàâàíåòî íà ñòàðàòà òåìà íî èìàì àáñîëþòíî ñúùèÿ ïðîáëåì êàòî îðèãèíàëíèÿ ïîñòåð à ðåøåíèåòî ïðåäëîæåíî â öèòàòà íå ðàáîòè è íèùî ÷óäíî ïîíåæå å ñòàòèÿ ïèñàíà ïðåç 2005.
    Äúíîòî ìè å Asus p5b è âå÷å îáíîâèõ áèîñà áåç íèêàêúâ ðåçóëòàò. Èçïîëçâàì äóàë áîîò ñ 32áèòîâî Åêñ Ïè è 64 áèòîâ Óèí 7. Íå ìè ñå èñêà âñåêè ïúò êàòî ñìåíÿì ÎÑ äà ïðîìåíÿì íàñòðîéêè â áèîñà.

    äðóãîòî êîåòî ìè å èíòåðåñíî å äàëè àêî ìàõíà 4òå ïàìåòè ïî 1ãá è ñëîæà 2 ïî 2 äàëè ùå èìà ïðîìÿíà

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    Ïðîìÿíà íÿìà äà èìà. Èçêëþ÷è memory remapping-à çà äà ñè ðåøèø ïðîáëåìà. Èçêîïàë ñè ãðåøíàòà òåìà, âúâ ôîðóìà èìà è äðóãà ïî âúïðîñà, ìíîãî ïî-àêòóàëíà.

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    Ñ÷åòîõ òåìàòà çà ïðàâèëíà ïîíåæå äúíîòî å òî÷íî ñúùîòî êàòî ìîåòî è ïðîáëåìà êàòî öÿëî å èäåíòè÷åí.
    àêî èìà ïî ïîäõîäÿùà òåìà ìîëÿ ìå íàñî÷åòå êúì íåÿ ïîíåæå èíñòðóìåíòà çà òúðñåíå íå óñïÿ äà ÿ íàìåðè.

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