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    ÊÎÒ ÒÀÊÎÀ Gastly's Avatar
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    4GB RAM è 32bit Windows

    Èñêàì äà ïîïèòàì êîëêî ðàì ùå ñå ðàçïîçíàâà îò 32áèò windows, àêî èìà 4GB RAM ?
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    Îêîëî 3,25Gb ðàçïîçíàâà õ86 ÕÏ-òî.

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    îñòàâåòå ìå íà áèðà! bukito's Avatar
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    Äàæå ìîæå è ñàìî 2ÃÁ äà òè ðàç÷åòå ïðîáâàè ñ åâåðåñòà äà âèäèø êîëêî òè ðàç÷èòà.àêî èñêàø äà ðàç÷èòà âñè÷êèòå 4 ñëîæè 64 áèòà íî ùå òè ñúçäàâà ÿäîâå

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    Íà ò'ñëàòà äðúæêàòà Extraordinary's Avatar
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    Àç ñúì âèæäàë îò MyComputer íà ìàøèíè ñ 4GB RAM, äà ïîêàçâà 3.5GB ÷ðåç ðàçøèðåíî àäðåñèðàíå. Çà ìàøèíè ñ ïîâå÷å îò 2GB RAM, íàèñòèíà å ïî-äîáðå äà ñå ïîëçâà 64-áèòîâà îïåðàöèîííà ñèñòåìà, ñòèãà äà íÿìà ïðîáëåì ñ íÿêîÿ êîíêðåòíà ïðîãðàìà êàòî ñúâìåñòèìîñò (âñå ïàê èìà òàêèâà).

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    Quote Originally Posted by xunokpaT View Post
    Îêîëî 3,25Gb ðàçïîçíàâà õ86 ÕÏ-òî.
    Òî÷íî,ïðåäè ìåñåö-äâà ñè ïðàâèõ åêñïåðèìåíò.
    Öúê
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    Íà ò'ñëàòà äðúæêàòà Extraordinary's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Game View Post
    Òî÷íî,ïðåäè ìåñåö-äâà ñè ïðàâèõ åêñïåðèìåíò.
    Öúê
    Íå çíàì äàëè å îò äúíîòî èëè ïðîöåñîðà (Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 è Q6600), íî íà êîìïþòúðà äåòî ãëåäàõ, âìåñòî 3.25GB ïîêàçâàøå 3.5GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extraordinary View Post
    Íå çíàì äàëè å îò äúíîòî èëè ïðîöåñîðà (Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 è Q6600), íî íà êîìïþòúðà äåòî ãëåäàõ, âìåñòî 3.25GB ïîêàçâàøå 3.5GB.
    Àìè âúçìîæíî å íåçíàì ïðè âñè÷êè ïîëîæåíèÿ îáà÷å íåìîãàò äà ñå èçïîëçâàò è 4-òå ãèãàáàéòà.Àç ïðîñòî êàçâàì ïðè ìåíå êàê áåøå ïîëîæåíèåòî.
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    ÊÎÒ ÒÀÊÎÀ Gastly's Avatar
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    Áëàãîäàðÿ íà âñè÷êè çà îòãîâîðèòå
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    Ïðîñòîòî îáÿñíåíèå å, ÷å ãîëÿìà ÷àñò îò õàðäóåðà èçïîëçâà ò.íàð. MMIO (memory mapped I/O), ò.å. âõîäíî/èçõîäíèòå ðåãèñòðè íà óñòðîéñòâîòî èçãëåæäàò êàòî ÷àñò îò ïàìåòòà íà ñèñòåìàòà. Ïðè 32-áèòîâèòå îïåðàöèîííè ñèñòåìè, îáëàñòòà çà MMIO òðÿáâà äà ñå íàìèðà â ïúðâèòå 4 GB îò ôèçè÷åñêîòî àäðåñíî ïðîñòðàíñòâî, ïîðàäè êîåòî ñå ïðèïîêðèâà ñ ÷àñò îò ôèçè÷åñêàòà ïàìåò, àêî òÿ å ïîâå÷å îò 2 èëè 3 GB, â çàâèñèìîñò îò èíñòàëèðàíèòå óñòðîéñòâà. Âúïðîñíàòà ïðèïîêðèòà ÷àñò ñå èçâàæäà îò ðàçìåðà íà ñèñòåìíàòà ïàìåò, ïîðàäè êîåòî â System Properties èçëèçàò ñòîéíîñòè êàòî 3,5 GB. Áåçñïîðåí ôàâîðèò ïðè "èçÿæäàíå" íà ÷àñòè îò àäðåñíîòî ïðîñòðàíñòâî ñà âèäåîêàðòèòå, îñîáåíî ðàçíèòå çâåðîâå ñ 512 MB è íàãîðå VRAM.

    Ïðîáëåìúò ÍÅ Å ñïåöèôè÷åí çà Windows XP èëè äðóãà âåðñèÿ íà Windows. Ïðîáëåìúò å â àðõèòåêòóðíèÿ äèçàéí íà x86 ïëàòôîðìàòà, ïîðàäè êîåòî âñè÷êè 32-áèòîâè îïåðàöèîííè ñèñòåìè ñòðàäàò îò òîâà îãðàíè÷åíèå.

    Çà ñïðàâÿíå ñ òîçè ïðîáëåì, òðÿáâà äà èìàòå ïî-íîâ ÷èïñåò è BIOS, ïîääúðæàù ïîíå 8 GB àäðåñíî ïðîñòðàíñòâî (íàïð. 975X, P965, 955X èëè AMD ïðîöåñîð ñ âãðàäåí êîíòðîëåð íà ïàìåòòà) ñ ôóíêöèÿ çà ðåìàïâàíå íà êîíôèãóðàöèîííàòà ïàìåò íà PCI óñòðîéñòâàòà, êàêòî è 64-áèòîâà âåðñèÿ íà îïåðàöèîííàòà ñèñòåìà. Áåç ôóíêöèÿòà çà ðåìàïâàíå íà I/O ïàìåò, 64-áèòîâèòå ÎÑ âñå îùå íÿìà äà ìîãàò äà èçïîëçâàò âñè÷êè 4 GB.

    Ïî òåìàòà å ïèñàíî ìíîãî ïúòè. Èçïîëçâàéòå òúðñà÷êàòà!
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    èçòî÷íèê : www.microsoft.com

    • The chipset must support at least 8 GB of address space. Chipsets that have this capability include the following:
    • Intel 975X
    • Intel P965
    • Intel 955X on Socket 775
    • Chipsets that support AMD processors that use socket F, socket 940, socket 939, or socket AM2. These chipsets include any AMD socket and CPU combination in which the memory controller resides in the CPU.
    • The CPU must support the x64 instruction set. The AMD64 CPU and the Intel EM64T CPU support this instruction set.
    • The BIOS must support the memory remapping feature. The memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. This feature must be enabled in the BIOS configuration utility on the computer. View your computer product documentation for instructions that explain how to enable this feature. Many consumer-oriented computers may not support the memory remapping feature. No standard terminology is used in documentation or in BIOS configuration utilities for this feature. Therefore, you may have to read the descriptions of the various BIOS configuration settings that are available to determine whether any of the settings enable the memory remapping feature.
    • An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used.

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    Õîðà, ñòðàííî íåùî å òàçè Âèñòà - ñëàãàì ñè ÿ àç çà òåñòîâå, âèêàì ñè - 4ÃÁ ùå ñòèãíàò. Èñêàì äà ñè ñëîæà Home Basic, íî çàðàäè ðàìà ñëàãàì 32áèòîâà Home Premium /äî 16ÃÁ/. Å äà, àìà íå... ïóñêàì ñè àç Âèñòàòà è ãëåäàì... 3.2ÃÁ. Ñòðàííè ðàáîòè åé. Èäåÿ çà ôèêñâàíå íà ïðîáëåìà?

    Äúíîòî å ñ 4 áàíêè, ñ ïî 1ÃÁ. Äúíîòî å íÿêàêâî ñè ñ i965 /MSI NEO/.
    icaci ùå ïðîáâàì è ïî-òâîÿ ìåòîä.

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    Äà 32-áèòà å Òðÿáâàøå 64-áèòîâà äà ñëîæèø
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    Softman, "ìîÿò" ìåòîä å âñúùíîñò ìåòîäúò íà Microsoft îò ïîñòà íà vegasis, íî ïðåâåäåí íà áúëãàðñêè è ñ íÿêîè ìàëêè äîïúëíèòåëíè ðàçÿñíåíèÿ. Òàì å êàçàíî ïðîñòî è ÿñíî - íîâ BIOS, ïîíå 8 GB àäðåñèðóåìè îò êîíòðîëåðà íà ïàìåòòà, ïîääðúæêà íà ðåìàïâàíå íà PCI êîíôèãóðàöèîííîòî ïðîñòðàíñòâî, 64-áèòîâà ÎÑ.
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    Âñúùíîñò ñëåä êàòî ïóñíàõ 2-3 èãðè, çà ìîìåíòà ñå îêàçà ÷å íÿìàì íèêàêà íóæäà îò 4ÃÁ /âñå îùå èì å ðàíî íà òèÿ 4ÃÁ/. Ñ íîâèÿ Call of Duty/demo/ äîðè è 2 ÃÁ íå ìèíàõ.
    Ïðîñòî ïðîôèëàêòè÷åí âúïðîñ.

    Çà ïðîòîêîëà:
    äúíîòî å òîâà MSI P965 NEO - ïîñëåäåí ÁÈÎÑ. Ñúìíÿâà ìå äà íå óñïåå äà ñå ñïðàâè ñ ïðîáëåìà.
    Äà îïðåäåëåíî çà ïîâå÷å ðàì å íóæíî 64áèòîâà. Ïðîâåðåíî
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    Ìàêñèìóìà êîéòî ñúì äîêàðâàë íà 32bit-îâ Windows XP e 3,75GB âèäèìè â OS-à. Òîâà ñúì ãî ïðàâèë è íà ñðàâíèòåëíî ñòàð âå÷å ÷èïñåò (i875), çàâèñè îò BIOS-à êîéòî ïîëçâà äúííàòà ïëàòêà. Çà ïîâå÷å òðÿáâà 64bit-îâ WIndows. Òåçè êîèòî âèæäàò 3,5GB - àêî ñòå ñ AGP âèäåîêàðòè, ïðîáâàéòå äà íàìàëèòå ìàêñèìàëíî AGP Aperture size è êàæåòå êàêâî ñå ñëó÷àâà.
    Àêî ìè îñòàíå âðåìå óòðå ùå ñå ïðîáâàì ñ åäèí i965 èëè P35, çà äà âèäÿ êàê òî÷íî äà ãî íàêàðàì äà èçêàðà 3,75GB â 32bit OS.

    BTW - èìàì ñìúòåí ñïîìåí, ÷å åäíî âðåìå áÿõ äîêàðàë åäèí Windows 2003 Advanced Server äî 3,97GB (4GB - 128MB), íî òîâà âàæåøå ñàìî çà êîíêðåòíè âåðñèè íà îïåðàöèîííàòà ñèñòåìà.
    Last edited by Ba4o Kiro; 29th August 2007 at 00:22.
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    philosophus duratea icaci's Avatar
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    Ìàëêî èçâúí òåìàòà, ïîíåæå ñå îòíàñÿ çà íå-Windows ÎÑ, íî íà ìàøèíà ñ 16 GB RAM 64-áèòîâ Linux âèæäà:
    Quote Originally Posted by Linux Kernel
    BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
    BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e000 (usable) 632K
    BIOS-e820: 000000000009e000 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) 8K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000000e4000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) 128K
    BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 00000000cff60000 (usable) 3406208K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000cff60000 - 00000000cff69000 (ACPI data) 36K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000cff69000 - 00000000cff80000 (ACPI NVS) 92K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000cff80000 - 00000000d0000000 (reserved) 512K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000e0000000 - 00000000f0000000 (reserved) 262144K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec10000 (reserved) 64K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved) 4K
    BIOS-e820: 00000000ff000000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 16384K
    BIOS-e820: 0000000100000000 - 0000000430000000 (usable) 13369344K
    (÷èñëàòà îòçàä ñúì ãè ñìåòíàë àç çà ïî-óäáîíî)
    Ñëåä âñè÷êèòå ðåìàïâàíèÿ îò ñòðàíà íà BIOS-à, ñóìàðíî èçïîëçâàåìèòå áëîêîâå ïàìåò ñà 16775552k (15,998 GB), íî âúïðåêè òîâà:
    Quote Originally Posted by Linux Kernel
    Memory: 16414312k/17563648k available (2105k kernel code, 0k reserved, 1297k data, 196k init)
    Ëèïñâàò 352,77 MB, êîèòî îïåðàöèîííàòà ñèñòåìà èçÿæäà çà ñîáñòâåíè íóæäè. Ôàéëúò /proc/iomem ïîêàçâà, ÷å PCI óñòðîéñòâàòà ñà íàòúïêàíè â äóïêàòà 0xd0000000 - 0xe0000000 è íå ÿäàò îò ïàìåòòà. Ñàìîòî äúíî ïîääúðæà äî 32 GB àäðåñèðóåìà RAM. ×èïñåòúò (Intel 5000P) ìîæå äà àäðåñèðà äî 64 GB.

    Òàêà ÷å, íåùàòà íå ñà òîëêîâà ïðîñòè, êîëêîòî èçãëåæäàò...

    Äîáàâêà: Ëþáîïèòíîòî å, ÷å íà äðóãà ìàøèíà, ñúñ ñúùèÿ õàðäóåð è ñîôòóåð, íî ñ 12 GB èíñòàëèðàíà RAM, ñèñòåìàòà ÿäå ñàìî 272,70 MB. Ïðè òîâà 272,70 : 352,77 = 0,77, êîåòî å äîñòà áëèçî äî ñúîòíîøåíèåòî íà ðàçìåðà íà ïàìåòòà (+ äóïêèòå) â äâàòà ñëó÷àÿ (0,76), êîåòî íàâåæäà íà èäåÿòà, ÷å ïàìåòòà ñå ãóáè â äèðåêòîðèèòå îò òàáëèöè çà ïîñòðàíè÷íî óïðàâëåíèå íà ïàìåòòà.
    Last edited by icaci; 29th August 2007 at 01:23.
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    Òåçè íåùà îòíàñÿò ëè ñå çà 32 áèòîâèòå Windows 2003?
    Çàùîòî òóêà åäèí Windows 2003, 32 áèòîâà âåðñèÿ ñè ðàáîòè ñ 4 ÃÁ ïàìåò áåç ïðîáëåìè.
    Last edited by Petko K; 29th August 2007 at 11:07.
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