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    Âå÷å ìèíèñòúð !
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    Êúì çíàåùèòå àíãëèéñêè

    Òåçè íåùà ñà äàäåíè â ãðàìàòèêàòà íà Ìúðôè (CAMBRIDGE) êàòî ðàâíîçíà÷íè :

    He is not = He's not = He isn't
    She is not = She's not = She isn't
    It is not = It's not = It isn't

    We are not = We're not = We aren't
    You are not = You're not = You aren't
    They are not = They're not = They aren't


     New Headway (Oxford) îáà÷å ñå ãîâîðè ñàìî çà:

    He is not = He isn't
    She is not = She isn't
    It is not = It isn't

    We are not = We aren't
    You are not = You aren't
    They are not = They aren't

    Êîå å ïðàâèëíîòî?
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    Âñè÷êî, íå ñå ïðèòåñíÿâàé. Ìúðôè å ïî-ïîäðîáåí. Åâåíòóàëíî â Oxford ìîæå äà ñà ñúêðàòèëè ôîðìè, êîèòî ñà îòïàäíàëè â ðàçãîâîðíàòà ðå÷, â ñìèñúë, âå÷å íå ñå ïîëçâàò ìàñîâî íà ïðàêòèêà. Åäèíñòâåíî òîâà ìè çâó÷è êàòî íîðìàëåí äîâîä äà îòïàäíå åäèíèÿò âèä ñúêðàùåíèå, íî ïî ìîå âðåìå è äâàòà âàðèàíòà îò Ìúðôè ñå âîäåõà çà ïðàâèëíè.
    Nikon D60, Nikkor AF-S DX 18-55mm, f/3.5-5.6G ED II

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    Registered User George's Avatar
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    He's, She's, It's ìè çâó÷àò ïî-ðàçãîâîðíî. Èíà÷å âñè÷êèòå ñà ïðàâèëíè.
    "It's a sad culture. People live in a frenzy. They work all the time to make money to buy things to impress other people. They're measured by what they own." --John Grisham

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    Íÿìà ãðåøíî îò íàïèñàíîòî ...

    (îñâåí åäèí ñáúðêàí àïîñòðîô è åäíî t áîíóñ )

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    Àç ðåäîâíî èçïîëçâàì He's, She's, It's, íàïúëíî âåðíè ñà ñè. Îòäåëíî, ÷å ïîíÿêîãà âìåñòî "He isn't" èëè "He is not/He's not" ìîæå äà ñå ïîëçâà è ïî-ðàçãîâîðíîòî "He ain't"

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    Âå÷å ìèíèñòúð !
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    Áëàãîäàðÿ !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaxas View Post
    ...ìîæå äà ñå ïîëçâà è ïî-ðàçãîâîðíîòî "He ain't"
    Êúäå å ðàçîãîâîðíî òîâà?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valeri View Post
    Êúäå å ðàçîãîâîðíî òîâà?
    äàæå å îâåêîâå÷åíî â "Hound Dog" - He ain't nothin' but a Hound Dog! - Åëâèñ :-)

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    Ïèòàì, ìîæå äà å ðàçãîâîðíî íÿêúäå. Àç íå ñúì ÷óâàë íèêîé äà ãî å êàçâàë îò >4 ãîäèíè îêîëî ìåí.

    P.S. Çà "íèãàòà" ÿñíî, àìà òîÿ íå îïðåäåëÿ ðàçãîâîðíèÿ åçèê. Âúâ ôèëìè è òåêñòîâå íà ïåñíè ñå ñðåùà (çà äà ñå óöåëè ðèìàòà îñíîâíî), íî íå è íà óëèöàòà. Ïîíå íå â òóêàøíèÿ àíãëèéñêè.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valeri View Post
    Ïèòàì, ìîæå äà å ðàçãîâîðíî íÿêúäå. Àç íå ñúì ÷óâàë íèêîé äà ãî å êàçâàë îò >4 ãîäèíè îêîëî ìåí.

    P.S. Çà "íèãàòà" ÿñíî, àìà òîÿ íå îïðåäåëÿ ðàçãîâîðíèÿ åçèê. Âúâ ôèëìè è òåêñòîâå íà ïåñíè ñå ñðåùà (çà äà ñå óöåëè ðèìàòà îñíîâíî), íî íå è íà óëèöàòà. Ïîíå íå â òóêàøíèÿ àíãëèéñêè.
    Íàèñòèíà íå ñúì ãî ñðåùàë êîé çíàå êîëêî ÷åñòî, íî âñå ïàê ñå èçïîëçâà. Âèæäàë ñúì ãî â êíèãè (êàòî ÷àñò îò ðåïëèêè íà ãåðîè), êàêòî è ïî ôîðóìè, è òî â ïîñòîâå íà ïîòðåáèòåëè îò àíãëîãîâîðÿùè ñòðàíè. Íå ìîãà äà êàæà äî êàêâà ñòåïåí ñå èçïîëçâà, òúé êàòî íèêîãà íå ñúì áèë â äúðæàâà, â êîÿòî îôèöèàëíèÿò åçèê äà å àíãëèéñêè.

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    Äîêòîðà ;) DoC's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valeri View Post
    Êúäå å ðàçîãîâîðíî òîâà?
    Íàâñÿêúäå... ïðèìåð: Bon Jovi - It's My Life
    PS: Çàñëóøàé ñå â íÿêîé ôèëì íÿêîé íèãà êàê ãîâîðè
    Ñåêè ñàì ñè ïðåöåíÿ.

    #makeHWBGgreatagain

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    Ïðîôåñèîíàëåí èìèãðàíò tonich's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaxas View Post
    .. ïî-ðàçãîâîðíîòî "He ain't"
    Îñòàðÿëà ôîðìà, ïî÷òè íå ñå èçïîëçâà.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonich View Post
    Îñòàðÿëà ôîðìà, ïî÷òè íå ñå èçïîëçâà.
    Íå å îñòàðÿëà ôîðìà, ïîëçâà ñè ñå. Æàðãîí å.

    "If your wheels ain't turning, you ain't earning."

    Âñåêè øîôüîð íà êàìèîí ãî çíàå òîâà =)

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    Â Òåêñàñ

    P.S. <ðèòîðè÷íî> Êàòî å ðàçëè÷åí ïî ñâåòà, çàùî ñìÿòàø, ÷å ñëåä êàòî íå ãî ÷óâàø â Îíòàðèî, íå ñå ÷óâà íÿêúäå äðóãàäå?
    Last edited by George; 30th January 2008 at 17:10.
    "It's a sad culture. People live in a frenzy. They work all the time to make money to buy things to impress other people. They're measured by what they own." --John Grisham

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    Âúïðîñúò òè ìîæå äà å ðèòîðè÷åí, íî íÿìà ëîãèêà â íåãî, ñïîðåä íàïèñàíîòî ïî-ãîðå. Èìåííî çàùîòî íèùî íå ñìÿòàì, çàòîâà ïèòàõ êúäå å ðàçãîâîðíî òîâà, çàùîòî åçèêúò ñå ðàçëè÷àâà ïî ñâåòà. Îêîëî ìåí íå å ðàçãîâîðíî â íèêàêâà ñòåïåí. Íå âèæäàì êàêâî íåÿñíî èìà.

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    Àç ñúùî íå ñúì ãî ÷óâàë äðóãàäå îñâåí â íÿêîëêî ïåñíè. À åäèíñòâåíî çàðàäè òîâà åäâà ëè ìîæå äà ñå îïðåäåëè êàòî ðàçãîâîðíî. Ìîæå áè ñúùåñòâóâà êàòî äèàëåêòåí èçðàç íÿêúäå ...â ùàòèòå.
    Êîìóíèêèðàì åæåäíåâíî ñ àíãëè÷àíè è çà ïîñëåäíèòå 3 ãîäèíè íå ñúì ÷óë íè åäèí ïúò íÿêîé äà ãî âêàðà â ðàçãîâîð.
    I can be friendly when I desire to. Alas, the desire to be more intelligent does not make it so.
    Ìàé âå÷å ìè òðÿáâàò î÷èëà ... íàâñÿêúäå êúäåòî ñå îáúðíà - õîðà ñ äâå ëèöà :/

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    Âúâ Âèðäæèíèÿ (èëè ïîíå â Leesberg è Charlottesville) ãîâîðÿò ïî òîçè íà÷èí. Å íå âñè÷êè ðàçáèðà ñå, íî íå å êàòî äà íå ñúì ãî ÷óâàë. È îò "íèãàñ", è îò "áëåäîëèêèòå"

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    Valeri, âàøèÿò àíãëèéñêè å áàøêà!
    Èçòðèò ïîäïèñ ñ íåïîçâîëåíî ñúäúðæàíèå.

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    CuMo, àç ïîíå íå ãåíåðèðàì àíãëèéñêè âèöîâå îò áúëãàðñêè òåêñò.

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    Èçòðèò ïîäïèñ ñ íåïîçâîëåíî ñúäúðæàíèå.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stenk View Post
    Òåçè íåùà ñà äàäåíè â ãðàìàòèêàòà íà Ìúðôè (CAMBRIDGE)
    Àç ëè÷íî ãè ïèøà òàêà:
    He'sn't
    She'sn't
    It'sn't
    We'ren't
    You'ren't
    They'ren't

    Íÿìàì èäåÿ äàëè å ïðàâèëíî, íî ìè ñå ñòðóâà, ÷å ñåäè íàé-äîáðå

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    Quote Originally Posted by exabyte View Post
    Àç ëè÷íî ãè ïèøà òàêà:
    He'sn't
    She'sn't
    It'sn't
    We'ren't
    You'ren't
    They'ren't

    Íÿìàì èäåÿ äàëè å ïðàâèëíî, íî ìè ñå ñòðóâà, ÷å ñåäè íàé-äîáðå

    Åâàëà !

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    È àç äà ñå íàìåñÿ...

    Íåêà äà ïî÷íåì ñ ëè÷íèòå ìåñòîèìåíèÿ â àíãëèéñêèÿ åçèê:

    I am
    You are
    He is
    She is
    It is

    We are
    You are
    They are

    Ïðåâåæäàìå ãè "Àç ñúì" è ïð. Êàòî èñêàìå äà êàæåì "Àç ÍÅ ñúì" (ò.å. îòðèöàò. ) êàçâàìå/ïèøåì:

    I am not = I'm not (íî â íèêàêúâ ñëó÷àé - I amn't)
    You are not = You aren't = You're not (òóê âå÷å çàáåëÿçâàìå, ÷å èìà îùå åäíà âúçìîæíîñò çà ñúêðàùàâàíå)
    He is not = He isn't = He's not
    She is not = She isn't = She is not
    It is not = It isn't = It's not

    We are not = We aren't = We're not
    You are not = You aren't = You're not
    The are not = They aren't = They're not

    Âúïðîñíèÿò "Ain't" :

    1.Îáèêíîâåíî ñå èçïîëçâà â ðàçãîâîðíàòà ðå÷
    2."Ain't" ñå èçïîëçâà âìåñòî is not (isn't) è are not (aren't) , ò.å. ìîæåì äà êàæåì "He ain't" , êàêòî è "We ain't" ...

    Ïî-ãîðå êàçàõ (íàïèñàõ) , ÷å àêî çà He is not å âúçìîæíî äà êàæåì "he isn't / he's not", çà "I am not" ìîæå åäèíñòâåíî "I'm not", "I amn't" ÍÅ å ïðàâèëíî...
    Íî àêî èñêàìå äà ñå èçðàçèì ïî òàêúâ íà÷èí ìîæå äà êàæåì : "I ain't"

    Toâà ìå íàâåæäà ìå íà ìèñúëòà çà òåêñòà íà ïåñåíòà íà Bon Jovi- It's my life

    "I ain't gonna be just a face in the crowd" ; "I ain't gonna live forever" (êàêòî âå÷å íÿêîé ïî- ãîðå ñïîìåíà...)
    @exabyte
    Âå÷å áè òðÿáâàëî äà ñè ñè íàïðàâèë çàêëþ÷åíèå çà ñúêðàùàâàíå íà ëè÷íèòå ìåñòîèìåíèÿ ... Ïî òâîÿ íà÷èí äîðè å òðóäíî/íåâúæìîæíî äà ñå ïðî÷åòàò...
    They'ren't áè òðÿáâàëî äà ñå ïðî÷åòå ... "ÄåéúðÚíò" èëè ìîæå áè äîðè "Äåéúðíúíò..." , èëè ïúê : "Äåéúðúðúíò" ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDINSIDE View Post
    @exabyte
    Âå÷å áè òðÿáâàëî äà ñè ñè íàïðàâèë çàêëþ÷åíèå çà ñúêðàùàâàíå íà ëè÷íèòå ìåñòîèìåíèÿ ... Ïî òâîÿ íà÷èí äîðè å òðóäíî/íåâúæìîæíî äà ñå ïðî÷åòàò...
    They'ren't áè òðÿáâàëî äà ñå ïðî÷åòå ... "ÄåéúðÚíò" èëè ìîæå áè äîðè "Äåéúðíúíò..." , èëè ïúê : "Äåéúðúðúíò" ....
    Àç ìèñëÿ, ÷å exabyte ñàìî ñå øåãóâàøå.
    believing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0wn3r View Post
    Àç ìèñëÿ, ÷å exabyte ñàìî ñå øåãóâàøå.
    Å, íÿìà çíà÷åíèå, ïðîñòî êàçâàì !

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