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    PC Ìîíòüîð meleto's Avatar
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    Question Athlon64 X2 6000+ íà 65nm?

    Äîêàòî ñå ðîâèõ èç èíòåðíåò âèäÿõ ÷å AMD ñà ïóñíàëè 65nm âåðñèÿ íà 6000+ êîÿòî äàæå å ñ 100Mhz îòîãðå (3,1GHz), êëîêâàë ñúì 4400+(2,2GHz, 65nm) äî 2,7Ghz áåç ïðîáëåì è ñè ìèñëÿ ÷å è òâà ùå ïîíåñå áàÿ. Àêî ñìåòêèòå ñà ìè ïðàâèëíè òîÿ 6000+ å ñ 15,5 ìíîæèòåë, 4400 ãî áÿõ ïóñíàë íà 250õ11, çíà÷è è òîÿ äà ðå÷åì ãè ïîäêàðà òèÿ 250õ15,5=3875Mhz è ðàáîòè íà ïî ìàëàê âîëòàæ è ïî íèñêè âàòîâå îò ïðåäèøíèÿ, ÷å òî íàïðàâî ñè å ïóøêà! Íÿêîè äà ìó ñå íàìèðàò íÿêâè òåñòîâå íà òîâà ÷óäî èëè êúäå ìîæå äà ñå ïðîäàâà? È êâî ìèñëèòå çàñëóæàâà ëè ñè, çàùîòî òîÿ 7750, ìàëêî ìå ñúìíÿâà ïúê êîè çíàå íà êâà öåíà ùå êàöíå....

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    Quote Originally Posted by meleto View Post
    Àêî ñìåòêèòå ñà ìè ïðàâèëíè òîÿ 6000+ å ñ 15,5 ìíîæèòåë, 4400 ãî áÿõ ïóñíàë íà 250õ11, çíà÷è è òîÿ äà ðå÷åì ãè ïîäêàðà òèÿ 250õ15,5=3875Mhz è ðàáîòè íà ïî ìàëàê âîëòàæ è ïî íèñêè âàòîâå îò ïðåäèøíèÿ, ÷å òî íàïðàâî ñè å ïóøêà!

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    Õàõà 6000+ @3.1 å ñ îðÿçàí êåø, è çîáùî íå å äîáúð âàðèÿíò çà ìåí, äðóãî êîåòî ìîæå äà ñå äîáàâè ïàäà äîñòà ÿêî îò 7750 áÿõ ãëåäàë íÿêàêâè òåñîòâå èç íåòà êàòî ãè íàìåðÿ ùå ñè åäèòíà ïîñòà, íå ïîäöåíÿâàé 7750 à è ùå áúäå íà öåíàòà íà E5200
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    Ìíåíèåòî ìè å íà áàçàòà íà òâà êîåòî çíàì îò ïðåäíèòå 65nm íà AMD, è ñúì çàáåëÿçàë ÷å ñå êëîêâàò äîñòà, íî êðàéíèÿ ðåçóëòàò å íàé-âàæåí íàëè, çàòîâà ïóñêàì òåìàòà è ïèòàì êâî ìèñëèòå.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meleto View Post
    Ìíåíèåòî ìè å íà áàçàòà íà òâà êîåòî çíàì îò ïðåäíèòå 65nm íà AMD, è ñúì çàáåëÿçàë ÷å ñå êëîêâàò äîñòà, íî êðàéíèÿ ðåçóëòàò å íàé-âàæåí íàëè, çàòîâà ïóñêàì òåìàòà è ïèòàì êâî ìèñëèòå.

    Ìè àç ëè÷íî ìèñëÿ, ÷å ñè äîñòà çàáëóäåí è ìàëêî íå òè å ÿñíî, îñîáåíî ñúäÿ ïî äðóãàòà òè òåìà îçàãëàâåíà, ÷å 7750 å ïî-ñëàá îò 6000+ èëè íåùî òàêîâà, åìè ðàçãëåäàé ìíîãî äîáðå ïàê òåñòîâåòå 6000+ å íà 3.1Ghz..ñðåùó 2.7

    Ïî÷íè òåñòîâåòå îòíà÷àëî è ãè ðàçëãåäàé ìíîãî âíèìàòåëíî, íå êàçâàì, ÷å ìîæåø äà èì ñå äîâåðèø íàïúëíî, íî èìà êàï÷èöà èñòèíà
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...x2-7750_5.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionS7 View Post
    Ìè àç ëè÷íî ìèñëÿ, ÷å ñè äîñòà çàáëóäåí è ìàëêî íå òè å ÿñíî, îñîáåíî ñúäÿ ïî äðóãàòà òè òåìà îçàãëàâåíà, ÷å 7750 å ïî-ñëàá îò 6000+ èëè íåùî òàêîâà, åìè ðàçãëåäàé ìíîãî äîáðå ïàê òåñòîâåòå 6000+ å íà 3.1Ghz..ñðåùó 2.7
     òåñòîâåòå íà tomshardware âàäåøå ïî-ìàëêî òî÷êè è çà òâà ñå î÷óäèõ è ïîñòíàõ òåìàòà...
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    Quote Originally Posted by meleto View Post
     òåñòîâåòå íà tomshardware âàäåøå ïî-ìàëêî òî÷êè è çà òâà ñå î÷óäèõ è ïîñòíàõ òåìàòà...

    Êîãàòî âèäÿ òåñò íà tomshardware, è ãî ïîäìèíàâàì - îùå åäíî íåùî, êîåòî ÿâíî íå òè å ÿñíî, åìè ñúâåòà ìè äà èç÷àêàø 7750 ùå ñè ñòðóâà ïðîöåñîð÷åòî, äîñòà òåñòúðè ãî òâúðäÿò, ñ åäíà äîáðà áðîéêà ùå ñå ñòèãíå 3300-3400Mhz, ïàê ñïîìåíàâàì ùå å íà öåíàòà íà E5200.

    Çàïîâÿäàé îùå åäíî ëþáîïèòíî ðåâþ - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...00-oc-review/1
    Òóê èìà ñðàâíåíèå íà 7750 @3100Mhz + E5200 @4000Mhz, êîåòî å ïî-èíòåðåñíîòî.

    * Ñàìî àêî å âúçìîæíî äà ïîìîëÿ ìîäåðàòîðèòå äà ïðåìåñòÿò ïîñòîâåòå â òåìàòà çà Athlon 7000, ïîíåæå ìàé íà òàìà îòèâàìå ñ ðàçãîâîðà.
    Last edited by LionS7; 22nd December 2008 at 23:10.
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    Àç ñúì ñ òàêúâ 6000+ G2 ðåâèçèÿ.Ñ êëîêà ñòèãíàõ äî 218 øèíà,áåç äà íàìàëÿì ìíîæèòåë è äà ïóñêàì òîê,ò.å 3379ìõç.,íå ìè ñå èãðàå ñ vcore è ïàìåòè( ñ ìàëêî òî÷åö ñúì ñèãóðåí,÷å 3500ìíç ùå ãè ñòèãíà).Ìîæå è îò êóöîòî ìè äúíî äà å,íî íå å ñòàáèëåí íà 3379ìõç.Çàñòîïîðèõ ãî êàêòî ñúì îïèñàë â ïîäïèñà è çàñåãà ðàáîòè áåç ïðîáëåì.Äîâîëåí ñúì îò ïðîöåñîðà,íî ñúì õâúðëèë îêî íà Phenom 9750 è ÷àêàì äà ïàäíàò îùå ìàëêî öåíèòå...(ñ íîâîòî áèîñ÷å íà äúíîòî ùå çàñïè)!
    Last edited by pbosev; 23rd December 2008 at 09:16.
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    è àç ñòèãàì äî 215-217 ñòàáèëíè(1.375v), òåìïåðàòóðàòà ìó å ïåðôåêòíà.....íàä 220 øèíà çàïî÷âà äà äúíè ïðèëîæåíèÿòà, èíà÷å ñè ïàëè íîðìàëíî...âåðíî è ÷å ìåí äúíîòî ìå îãðàíè÷àâà....àç ïðèìåðíî íÿìàì ìíîæèòåë 15.5
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    Àç èìàì Athlon 5600+ è ñå êëîêíà äî 215 øèíà äåìåê 3124ìõö.Íå âÿðâàì 6000+ äà ñå êëîêíå ïîâå÷å îò 3,5ãõö ñ õóáàâî äúíî.
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    À çàùî äà ÷àêàìå 7750 êàòî ãî èìà íàëè÷åí?
    Öåíàòà å îêîëî 160 ëâ êðàéíà.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pileto View Post
    À çàùî äà ÷àêàìå 7750 êàòî ãî èìà íàëè÷åí?
    Öåíàòà å îêîëî 160 ëâ êðàéíà.

    Êúäå ãî èìà íàëè÷åí ?
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    Stantek ñà ãî ïóñíàëè íà 160.60ëâ - Äàëè èìà íàëè÷íîñòè? Íÿìàì èäåÿ
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    Äà ïèòàì...
    Íîðìàëíèÿ vcore ìè å 1.40V,îáà÷å ïîñòîÿííî èãðàå íàãîðå,íàäîëó.Ïðèìåðíî çàäàë ñúì îò äúíîòî 1.4V,êàòî å â ïîêîé ñè ñòîé íà 1.4,íî êàòî ïóñíà ïðèëîæåíèå,êà÷âà äî 1.5 .Çàòîâà ñúì çàäàë 1.35V è ïðè òîâàð å 1.44.
    Íîðìàëíî ëè å òîâà îâúðâîëòâàíå è ìîæå ëè ïî íÿêàêúâ íà÷èí äà ñå ðåãóëèðà?
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    pbosev,
    íîðìàëíî å äà òè îâúðâîëòâà, òîâà å õàðàêòåðíà ÷åðòà íà Ãèãàáàéòèòå (ïîíå çà ÀÌÄ). Íå ìîæå äà ñå ðåãóëèðà.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God View Post
    pbosev,
    íîðìàëíî å äà òè îâúðâîëòâà, òîâà å õàðàêòåðíà ÷åðòà íà Ãèãàáàéòèòå (ïîíå çà ÀÌÄ). Íå ìîæå äà ñå ðåãóëèðà.
     òàêúâ ñëó÷àé,ïðå÷è ëè ìó,÷å ñúì çàäàë ðú÷íî äà å 1.375V,âìåñòî 1.4V? ñìèñúë,ïðèòåñíÿâàì ñå äàëè íå ìó å ìàëêî òîêà,âñå ïàê ñúì ãî êëîêíàë è íà âñè÷êîòî îòãîðå ñúì íàìàëèë vcore.

    ïï.À èìàì è êîôòè ñëó÷àè íà çàìðúçâàíå â ïîêîé...


    Ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî å äà âäèãíåø âîëòàæà (ïîíå 1,4-1,45) è èçêëþ÷è C&Q, çà äà íÿìàø ïðîáëåìè â idle.
    Íÿìà ëè äà å ïðîáëåì,÷å ïîä òîâàð ñêà÷à äî 1.5 , 1.55V ?
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    Ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî å äà âäèãíåø âîëòàæà (ïîíå 1,4-1,45) è èçêëþ÷è C&Q, çà äà íÿìàø ïðîáëåìè â idle.

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    Êîëêî ìíîãî ñå ðàäâàò õîðàòà êàòî êëîêâàò Àòëîí-èòå ñ ïî 200-300 ìàíäàõåðöà.

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