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    Registered User zero's Avatar
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    Doom 3 îãðàíè÷åíà äî 60fps!

    At a recent NVIDIA Editors' Day, id Software CEO Todd Hollenshed announced that DOOM 3 will be capped to 60 frames per second in the rendering engine.
    We checked with John Carmack himself about why DOOM 3 will be hard-capped at 60fps in the renderer, and he had this to say:

    "The game tic simulation, including player movement, runs at 60hz, so if it rendered any faster, it would just be rendering identical frames. A fixed tic rate removes issues like Quake 3 had, where some jumps could only be made at certain framerates. In Doom, the same player inputs will produce the same motions, no matter what the framerate is."
    Êàêâî ìèñëèòå ïî âúïðîñà?
    Ìíîãî õèòðî ðåøåíèå
    ßâíî òàÿ èãðà íÿìà äà ñå ïîëçâà çà òåñòîâå.

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    Registered User NoDude!'s Avatar
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    Ïðåêàëåíî ãðóáî ðåøåíèå. 60fps ñà ìàëêî (ñïîðåä ìåí), è àêî èãðàåø äîñòàòú÷íî âðåìå ñå óñåùà ÷å íå å íàä 80 (òîâà ÷å ñðåäíîñòàòèñòè÷åñêèÿ ÷îâåê íå âèæäà ðàçëèêà íàä 60fps ãî çíàì, ñàìî äåòî ãåéìúðèòå íå ñà îáèêíîâåííè õîðà íàëè?). È îùå åäíî íåùî, ÷óäÿ ñå êàêâî ëè ùå ñòàíå àêî ñå ïóñíå âñèíê+60Hz fix-a+èãðàòà... Íå ñúì ñèãóðåí, íî íÿìà ëè äà çàïî÷íå äà íàñè÷à ìíîãî ãðóáî?

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    Whimmy Wham Wham Wozzle! lini's Avatar
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    òîâà äà íå å íåùî êàòî Frame Rate Limiter-à íà GTA?

    99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs...
    Knock one down, and test it again, 100 little bugs in the codå...

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    ×ëåí
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    Òîé ïè÷à êàçâà ÷å â èãðàòà äâèæåíèÿòà ùå ñà ñ 60ôïñ à êàòî âèäåîòî òè ìîæå ïîâå÷å ùå ðåíäâà åäèí è ñúù êàäúð. Ìàëêî ñëîæíî å äà ñå îáÿñíè ìàé

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    60 ôïñ å íàé-ìàëêàòà åäèíèöà âðåìå íà ôèçè÷åñêèÿ åíäæèí - è å ðåøèë äà îãðàíè÷è äî 60 óíèêàëíè êàäúðà, âñè÷êî îòãîðå ùå "ïîâòàðÿ" êàäðè.
    ×îâåêà ñå îïèòâà äà ðèøå ïðîáëåìèòå îò âðåìåòî íà Êó2/Êó3 êîãàòî õîðàòà ñ ïîâå÷å ôïñ èìàò õåíäèêàï è ïðàâÿò "ôèçè÷åñêè íåâúçìîæíè" íåùà.
    Ìåæäó äðóãîòî - äîêîëêîòî çíàì â Êó3 â ñåêóíäà èìà ñàìî 30 "òèêà"...

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    Õåíäèêàïà ìàé áåøå 85, íî îò îòäàâíà ñúì ãî ìàõíàë. Íà ìåí ïðèòåñíåíèåòî ìè å ÷å õîðàäà îò ID ñè "ìèñëÿò" ÷å âñè÷êè ùå ÿ èãðàÿò íà 60Hz refresh rate, íî äîñòà õîðà ñà ñè tweak-íàëè ìèíèìàëíèÿ refresh rate íà 85Hz è àêî ïðèáàâèì âñèíê-à ùå ðåíäâà 25 êàäúðà (êàòî ÷å ëè èìàì êàðòà êîÿòî è 60 ùå íàïðàâè ) çà òîÿ ùî äóõà, êàòî íÿìà íà÷èí äà ïðîïóñíå íÿêîé èñòèíñêè êàäúð â òîÿ ïðîöåñ...

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    Registered User petst's Avatar
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    Ñàìî ïðîáâàì
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    Originally posted by NoDude!
    Õåíäèêàïà ìàé áåøå 85, íî îò îòäàâíà ñúì ãî ìàõíàë. Íà ìåí ïðèòåñíåíèåòî ìè å ÷å õîðàäà îò ID ñè "ìèñëÿò" ÷å âñè÷êè ùå ÿ èãðàÿò íà 60Hz refresh rate, íî äîñòà õîðà ñà ñè tweak-íàëè ìèíèìàëíèÿ refresh rate íà 85Hz è àêî ïðèáàâèì âñèíê-à ùå ðåíäâà 25 êàäúðà (êàòî ÷å ëè èìàì êàðòà êîÿòî è 60 ùå íàïðàâè ) çà òîÿ ùî äóõà, êàòî íÿìà íà÷èí äà ïðîïóñíå íÿêîé èñòèíñêè êàäúð â òîÿ ïðîöåñ...
    Òè ìàé ñåðèîçíî áúðêàø ôðåéðåéòà ñ îïðåñíÿâàíåòî íà ìîíèòîðà. Íÿìà íèêàêúâ ïðîáëåì ìîíèòîðà òè äà å íà 60/75/85/100 HZ èëè êîëêîòî ñå ñåòèø è äà âúðâè èãðàòà ñ 60FPS. 60/85 (íàïðèìåð)=12/17 ò.å. íà âñåêè 17 îïðåñíÿâàíèÿ íà åêðàíà ùå èìàø 5 ïîâòàðÿùè ñå êàäúðà, òàêà ÷å ñïîêî. Äðóãèÿ âàðèàíò å äà òè ñå íàìàëÿâàò êàäðèòå, êîåòî ñïîðåä ìåí å íåïðèåìëèâî (â íîðìàëíèòå èãðè ñòàâàò 50 âìåñòî 60 êîãàòî ñè íà 85 Hz (50/85=2/3) ñúñ ñèíõðîíèçàöèÿòà. Èëè ïúê äà ñå ïóñêàò íàä 60, êîåòî îáà÷å ñà ñìåòíàëè çà íåïðèåìëèâî òèÿ îò ID

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    Child of the Darkness astral's Avatar
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    Íåçíàì êîé ñè ìèñëè ÷å íà D3 60fps ùå ñà ìàëêî...èëè ñëó÷éíî å íàïðåä ñ õàðäóåðà.Èäåÿòà å ïîâå÷å îò ÿñíà-ðåàëèñòè÷íè äâèæåíèÿ è åñòåñòâåíè ïðîìåíè â îêîëíàòà ñðåäà áåç èçïúëíåíèÿ ñòèë Ìàòðèöàòà.

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