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    Thumbs down :(

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    Raw Read Error Rate - , . Seagate .
    Reallocated Sectors Count - , , , . . 250 GB ( ) , , .
    (Guaranteed sectors) 976,773,168 . , .
    Spin Retry Count - . . .
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    ? , . 10,000 (average motor start/stop cycles per year) 50,000 .
    . - 97 100 . ?
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    , Hardware ECC Recovered ( , ) UltraDMA CRC Error Count.

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    Windows DMA CRC (UltraDMA CRC Error Count) DMA PIO ( ). . . , . . - S.M.A.R.T. .
    http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/s...100452348g.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by bra1npa1n View Post
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    (Properties) ATA , . ( : WIN 7 ->Device Manager ->IDE ATA/ATAPI controlers -> ATA channel 0).
    Advanced Settings Ultra DMA Mode X ( Current Mode - ) DMA (Enable DMA).
    Windows .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpasV View Post
    Reallocated Sectors Count - , , , . . 250 GB ( ) , , .
    (Guaranteed sectors) 976,773,168 . , .
    , 1100+ .. .. (bra1npa1n - reallocated ? ?)
    ███████ ( Ilko)
    ███████-, ? ( )
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    Quote Originally Posted by PepiX View Post
    , 1100+ ..
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    Current (43) ,
    Worst (43) - ,
    Threshold (36) ???
    Data (1170) - ?
    , 1170 , ?
    , (100,100,36,0)
    (95,95,36, 212).

    : (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.)
    ( "" - raw), Raw Read Error Rate)

    - 100 .

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    Data , , (Threshold) , (OK)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpasV View Post
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    Windows DMA CRC (UltraDMA CRC Error Count) DMA PIO ... , . ...
    UltraDMA CRC Error Count ! .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpasV View Post
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    Raw ..
    ███████ ( Ilko)
    ███████-, ? ( )
    ███████

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    - S.M.A.R.T.
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    http://www.siguardian.com/products/s...e_meaning.html
    http://smartlinux.sourceforge.net/smart/attributes.php
    http://www.hdsentinel.com/help/en/56_attrib.html

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    Cyclical Redundancy Check (CRC) errors, Direct Memory Access (DMA).

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    : IDE ATA and ATAPI disks use PIO mode after multiple time-out or CRC errors occur : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817472#appliesto.
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    Windows IDE/ATAP (Atapi.sys) - CRC , ( ) - DMA - DMA . - CRC - - PIO .

    "After the Windows IDE/ATAPI Port driver (Atapi.sys) receives a cumulative total of six time-out or cyclical redundancy check (CRC) errors, the driver reduces the communications speed (the transfer mode) from the highest Direct Memory Access (DMA) mode to lower DMA modes in steps. If the driver continues to receive time-out or CRC errors, the driver eventually reduces the transfer mode to the slowest mode (PIO mode)."

    Microsoft Hotfix . .
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    , S.M.A.R.T. .

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    http://www.hdsentinel.com/smart/.
    " S.M.A.R.T.?" (Can we believe S.M.A.R.T. ?) ATA (IDE and Serial ATA) .

    :

    A single S.M.A.R.T. attribute has the following fields:

    Identifier (byte): the meaning of the attribute. Many attributes have standard meanings (for example, 5 = number of reallocated sectors, 194 = temperature, etc). Most applications provide name and textual description about the attributes.

    Data (6 bytes): raw measured values are stored in this field, provided by a sensor or a counter. This data is then processed by an algorythm designed by the hard disk manufacturer. Sometimes different parts (for example, low, middle, high 16 bits) of this value contain different kind of information.

    Threshold (byte): the (failure) limit value for the attribute.

    Value (byte): the current relative "health" of the attribute. This number is calculated by the algorythm, using the raw data (see above). On a new hard disk, this number is high (a theoretical maximum, for example 100, 200 or 253) and it is decreasing during the lifetime of the disk.

    Worst (byte): the worst (smallest) value ever found in the previous lifetime of the hard disk.

    Status flags: indicate the main purpose of the attribute. An attribute can be for example critical (able to predict failure) or statistical one (does not directly affect condition).

    .. , , S.M.A.R.T. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpasV View Post
    - S.M.A.R.T.
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    3- Reallocated Sectors Count. ( ) , "" .


    "Cyclical Redundancy Check (CRC) errors", . . 2094 , .


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpasV View Post
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    Cyclical Redundancy Check (CRC) errors, Direct Memory Access (DMA).

    , .
    : IDE ATA and ATAPI disks use PIO mode after multiple time-out or CRC errors occur : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817472#appliesto.
    , ,
    Windows IDE/ATAP (Atapi.sys) - CRC , ( ) - DMA - DMA . - CRC - - PIO .

    "After the Windows IDE/ATAPI Port driver (Atapi.sys) receives a cumulative total of six time-out or cyclical redundancy check (CRC) errors, the driver reduces the communications speed (the transfer mode) from the highest Direct Memory Access (DMA) mode to lower DMA modes in steps. If the driver continues to receive time-out or CRC errors, the driver eventually reduces the transfer mode to the slowest mode (PIO mode)."

    Microsoft Hotfix . .
    , , , . 100% (Pentium D 2 3.4 GHz) . ( GB , .)
    ...
    "hdd+pio+mod" ?
    ( microsoft hotfix) Windows XP:
    - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl Set\Control\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
    000, 001, 002 .. - .
    :

    There are three keys that work together:

    MasterDeviceTimingMode
    MasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed
    UserMasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed

    Each bit in these values means a transfer mode that the device may or may not be capable of. Somewhere at MS some of these bits can be looked up.

    MasterDeviceTimingMode:

    This is the actual mode the device is running at.

    MasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed:

    This entry may be the problem child. Peter wrote: "Normally not present in XP, it is created as a reaction to errors. This entry has absolute priority." However, there are doubts whether this is the absolute truth. It is still not entirely clear where this entry comes from. Erasing it or setting it to a DWORD value of 0xFFFFFFFF, rebooting, re-enabling DMA mode, and rebooting again seems to have solved the problem in some cases.

    UserMasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed:

    This entry contains the user's setting, manually entered in the advanced device properties. Has the same structure as MasterDeviceTimingMode. This entry appears when the user sets a limited mode manually, such as PIO only.

    Another key that seems to create the problem is MasterIdDataChecksum.

    All these parameters also exist for the slave drive as SlaveDeviceTimingMode, etc.
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    - Device Manager , Primary, Secondary , ... () . Windows , . .
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    Reallocated Sectors Count (26) - Threshold (36) Data (3050) -Status Failed.
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