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23rd January 2011 13:02 #1Registered User
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Q6600 èëè E8400
Çäðàâåéòå,
Èìàì èçâåñòíî êîëåáàíèå êîé îò äâàòà ïðîöåñîðà äà ñè âçåìà? Êîìïþòúðúò ùå ñå ïîëçâà îñíîâíî çà àíèìàöèÿ, ìîäåëèíã è èëþñòðàöèÿ, ãðàôè÷åí äèçàéí. Äðóãèòå êîìïîíåíòè âå÷å ñà èçáðàíè
Ìåðñè ïðåäâàðèòåëíî çà ïîìîùòà
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23rd January 2011 13:03 #2
Ïúðâèÿ âàðèàíò ñ ëåê êëîê íà 3GHz
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black @4GHz with 1.425v |GA-MA790FX-UD5P| Prolimatech Megahalems + Noctua NF-S12B-FLX |EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SSC 6GB ACX 3.0 | 4Õ2GB G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ | 1TB + 640GB WD Black | Seasonic X750 Gold | CM 690 II Advanced Black | Logitech Wave Pro | Edifier R1850DB
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23rd January 2011 13:06 #3
Äâå ÿäðà ñðåùó 4 ÿäðà
È òî ñúñ ñîôòóåð êîéòî ïîëçâà 4-òå ÿäðà.Èçëèøåí âúïðîñ ìèñëÿ.Q6600 ñ ëåê êëîê êàêòî êàçâàò åäèí ïîñò ïî íàãîðå.
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23rd January 2011 14:58 #4
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23rd January 2011 13:09 #5
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23rd January 2011 13:26 #6Registered User
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`ùî òàêà?! Çà ñïðàâêà: Terragen 2 òåìàòà.
Q6600 å ïî-äîáúð â ñëó÷àÿ, íî å æåëàòåëíî äà ìó ñå ñëîæè è äîáðî îõëàæäàíå.
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23rd January 2011 13:28 #7
Èíòåðåñíî.Çàùî å8400 å ïî áúðç.Ìîæå ëè äîêàçàòåëñòâà.
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23rd January 2011 14:47 #8
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23rd January 2011 14:43 #9
íå å ïî-áúðç, íî ñðàâíåíèå ñ îíèÿ êîòëîí å ïî-äîáðèÿò èçáîð
âñúùíîñò, â äîñòà àïëèêàöèè ùå å ïî-áúðç, çàùîòî ùå èìà ÷óâñòâèòåëíî ïî-âèñîêà ÷åñòîòà, îñâåí òîâà ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà ìó ÿäðî/÷åñòîòà ñðå÷ó ÿäðî/÷åñòîòà å äîñòà ïî-âèñîêà
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23rd January 2011 14:48 #10Registered User
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Òðÿáâà äà ñå ñïîìåíå çà êàêúâ òî÷íî ñîôòóåð ñòàâà äóìà.
E8400 îïðåäåëåíî ùå äðúïíå â ñîôòóåðà êîéòî ïîëçâà åäíî ÿäðî, à è â ìíîãîíèøêîâèòå íÿìà äà îòñòúïè ñ ìíîãî ïîðàäè 6ÌÁ êåø, äîêàòî Q6600 èìà îò ñòàðèÿò êåø êîéòî å 4/4ÌÁ, íî å çëå îïðèìèçèðàí è ìîæå äà ñå ñ÷èòà åêâèâàëåíòåí íà 2/2ÌÁ.
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23rd January 2011 14:54 #11
Àêî íå ñå êëîêâàò, êîé å ïî- óäà÷åí?
Å8400 = 2õ3000ìõö (FSB 1333 / 6ìá êåø)
Q6600 = 4x2400ìõö (FSB 1066 / 2õ4 êåø)X370Killer SLI /Ryzen 7 1700 /32GB Iridium DDR4 /250GB 970EVO M2 /256GB 850 PRO SATA /480GB KINGSTON A400 SATA /R9280X /Corsair RM1000 /HAF XB /2x Acer Nitro VG270bmiix
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23rd January 2011 14:58 #12
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23rd January 2011 14:53 #13
http://hardwarebg.com/forum/showpost...postcount=2808
Àç áèõ âçåë ÷åòèðèÿäðåí, ïà ìàêàð è ñ ìàëêî ïî-íèñêà ÷åñòîòà. Îòòóê íàñåòíå âñè÷êî ùå áåíåôèöèðà îò ïîâå÷å ÿäðà.
Èìàë ñúì ãè è äâàòà, ñóáåêòèâíîòî ìè âïå÷àòëåíèå å, ÷å ñ Q6600 âñè÷êî å ïî-ìàçíî.EVGA X299 FTW K|i9-7960X@4.7|4x8 Patriot Viper Steel 4000|GTX 1660 Ti|970 EVO 1 TB|Seasonic Focus GX-1000|Xigmatek Elysium|Êèëî è ïîëîâèíà âîäà
Rampage IV Extreme BE|E5-1680v2@4.7|4x4 HyperX 1866|Cougar Aqua 240|GTX 1050 Ti|970 EVO 1/4 TB|CM 850 SilentPro|HAF-X|Áåç èñòèíñêî âîäíî
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23rd January 2011 14:58 #14
åòî òóê ìîæåø äà õâúðëèø åäíî îêî è ñïîðåä àïëèêàöèèòå êîèòî ùå ïîëçâàø äà íàïðàâèø èçáîðà, êàòî èìàø åäíî íà óì ÷å q6600 ñè å êîòëîí â ñðàâíåíèå ñ Å8õõõ, íå ïîääúðæà è vt-d ñúùî
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/54?vs=53
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23rd January 2011 15:01 #15
Àêî íå ñå êëîêâàò Q6600 ùå å îùå ïî-äîáðå.
EVGA X299 FTW K|i9-7960X@4.7|4x8 Patriot Viper Steel 4000|GTX 1660 Ti|970 EVO 1 TB|Seasonic Focus GX-1000|Xigmatek Elysium|Êèëî è ïîëîâèíà âîäà
Rampage IV Extreme BE|E5-1680v2@4.7|4x4 HyperX 1866|Cougar Aqua 240|GTX 1050 Ti|970 EVO 1/4 TB|CM 850 SilentPro|HAF-X|Áåç èñòèíñêî âîäíî
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23rd January 2011 15:03 #16Registered User
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Çà ìîäåëèðàíå íå å äîáðå Q, çà ðåíäåðèíã à ìàëêî ïî-äîáðå.
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23rd January 2011 15:04 #17
÷èñòî çà ðåíäåðèíã ñè å äîñòà ïî-äîáðå, àìà äî òàì
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23rd January 2011 15:11 #18
×îâåêà å êàçàë - àíèìàöèÿ, ìîäåëèíã - òàêà ÷å ïðåäïîëàãàì ÷å ùå ñå ðåíäè, â òàêúâ ñëó÷àè - ïîâå÷å ÿäðà. Äðóã å âúïðîñà, ÷å è äâàòà ïðîöåñîðà ñà ñòàðè è àêî àâòîðà íÿìà âå÷å äúíî çà òÿõ, òî ïî-äîáðå äà ñå îðèåíòèðà êúì ÷åòèðèÿäðåí Athlon II èëè Phenom II.
Íàäÿâàì ñå òîâà äà íå îçíà÷àâà, ÷å ùå ñå êóïóâàò íîâè, çàùîòî ùå å íàé-ãîëÿìàòà ãðåøêà.Äðóãèòå êîìïîíåíòè âå÷å ñà èçáðàíè
À àç äà ïèòàì è anobaka êàêâî çíà÷åíèå èìà ïðîöåñîðà â ìîäåëèðàíåòî?Crashing is NOT normal. It is accepted as normal because of Windows.
Ah the Geforce 440 MX...all the power of the Geforce 2MX, without nearly a damn being changed...
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23rd January 2011 15:34 #19Registered User
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Wow, òîëêîâà ìíîãî îòãîâîðè çà îòðèöàòåëíî âðåìå, ìåðñè ìíîãî!
Êàòî öÿëî, äà, íÿìàì èäåÿ äà ãî êëîêâàì. Ùå ñå ïîëçâà çà Softimage (Maya), Mudbox (Zbrush), Photoshop (Illustrator).
---------- Äîáàâåí ïîñëåäâàù êîìåíòàð â 15:34 ---------- Îðèãèíàëíèÿò êîìåíòàð å ïóñíàò â 15:18 ----------
Äúíî âå÷å ñè èìàì. Îñòàíàëèòå ÷àñòè ñúùî ñà èçïîëçâàíè, íî ñè ðàáîòÿò ïåðôåêòíî
Äîáðå, äå, åäèí òàêúâ âúïðîñ - ðàçëèêàòà ìåæäó äâàòà ïðè ðåíäåðèíã ùå å ñàìî âúâ âðåìåòî, çà êîåòî ùå ãî ñìåòíàò, à íå ÷å åäèíèÿò (q6600) ìîæå äà ïîåìå ïî-òåæúê êàòî ãåîìåòðèÿ ìîäåë èëè àíèìàöèÿ,à å8400 äà íå óñïåå? Ïîíåæå èìàì ëàïòîï è ìîäåëèðàõ íåùî, êîåòî ñå îïèòàõ äà ðåíäíà, íî ñîôòúò êðàøíà. Ìàé ïî-âåðîÿòíàòà ïðè÷èíà å ÐÀÌ-úò ìè, êîéòî å 1 GB
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23rd January 2011 15:49 #20
ðàçëèêàòà ùå å ñàìî âúâ âðåìåòî çà êîåòî ùå ñå ðåíäâà ñöåíàòà/àíèìàöèÿòà
è ðàçëèêàòà ùå âàðèðà îò íèêàêâà äî1:2â ïîëçà íà quad-à
åäèò: ðàçëèêàòà ùå âàðèðà îò íèêàêâà äî 1:1,5 â ïîëçà íà quad-àLast edited by Danny; 23rd January 2011 at 16:33.
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23rd January 2011 16:12 #21Registered User
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Màêñèìóì 40% â ïîëçà íà Quad. ÷àê 1:2 å òðóäíî ïîâåðâàåìî.
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23rd January 2011 16:23 #22
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23rd January 2011 17:08 #23
Q6600 íå ñúì èìàë, íî èìàì Q9550 è ïðåäè íåãî áÿõ ñ E8400. Ñ Å8400 ñòèãíàõ 4.4Ghz, à ñ Q9550 3.7Ghz. ×åñòíî äà âè êàæà â 90% îò ïðèëîæåíèÿòà, êîèòî ïîëçâàõ (ïðåäèìíî èãðè) Å8400 áèåøå, ÍÎ (ãîëÿìî ÍÎ) òîãàâà îùå ïî÷òè íÿìàøå ïðèëîæåíèå çà ïîâå÷å îò äâå ÿäðà. Ñåãà íåùàòà ñà ðàçëè÷íè è îïðåäåëåíî ÿäðàòà ñà ïî-âàæíè. Ñúùî òàêà Å8400 àêî ãî ïîäõâàíåø íà êëîê ñè ñòàâà ãîëÿìà ïå÷êà. Ñïîðåä ìåí àêî ãîâîðèì çà íîâè ñúì çà Q6600, íî íà âòîðà ðúêà èìà Q9550 îêîëî 300ëâ èç íåòà, à å ïî-îôåðòà ñïîðåä ìåí.
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23rd January 2011 18:42 #25
Ìì, à ïúê çà 275ëâ ùå ñè âçåìå íîâ Phenom II X4 955 êîéòî â ïîâå÷åòî ñëó÷àè å ðàâåí ñ Q9550, íî è â ïîâå÷åòî ðåíäåðè 955 å ïî-áúðç.
Íî ïúê ìîæå äà ñè âçåìå QX9770 çàùîòî å ìíîãî áúðç
Danny - Q6600 ùå å ïî-áúðç â ðåíäà íÿìà äà å "ðàçëèêàòà ùå âàðèðà îò íèêàêâà äî..." - ñòèãà ãî ïîâòàðÿë, çàíèìàâàë ëè ñè ñå íÿêîãà ñ ðåíä èçîáùî? Çàùîòî ìîãà äà êàæà ÷å ñúì èçñëåäâàë ïîäðîáíî ñêàëèðàíåòî ïðè ðåíä íà windows/linux 32/64bit 1/2/3ÿäðà + ðàçëèêàòà â ãåíåðàöèèòå Athlon / Phenom II. È çíàì äîñòàòú÷íî çà äà êàæà ÷å ðàçëèêà èìà - 1 ÿäðî îòãîðå äåéñòâà äîáðå, íî ïðè 2 ðàçëèêàòà âå÷å ñè å ãîëÿìà. Ìàêàð è Q6600 äà å áàâåí ÷åòèðèÿäðåí ïðîöåñîð òîé âñå ïàê ùå å ïî-áúðç îò äâóÿäðåíèÿ ïîíå ñ 20% (êîåòî íå å ìíîãî), äî äà êàæåì 40%.
Ïðàêòè÷åñêèÿ ìè ñúâåò îáà÷å å â äðóãà ïîñîêà - äà âçåìå ïî-åâòèíèÿ, çàùîòî êàòî íàâëåçå â íåùàòà òàêà èëè èíà÷å òðÿáâà äà ñè âçåìå ïî-áúðç ïðîöåñîð íà ïî-íîâà ïëàòôîðìà, çàùîòî è äâàòà ñà ñè ïîîñòàðÿëè.
Åäèò: Ìèñëåõ, ÷å çà E8600 ñòàâà âúïðîñ, à òî áèëî E8400 - â òàêúâ ñëó÷àé ÷åòèðèÿäðåíèÿ ùå å ïîíå 30% ïî-áúðç â ðåíä, òàêà ÷å àâòîðà äà ñè ïðåöåíè.Last edited by wolfshark; 23rd January 2011 at 18:56.
Crashing is NOT normal. It is accepted as normal because of Windows.
Ah the Geforce 440 MX...all the power of the Geforce 2MX, without nearly a damn being changed...




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