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    ACHI èëè IDE?

    Ïîðîâèõ ñå îòíîñíî òîçè âúïðîñ, íî òàêà è íå íàìåðèõ îáÿñíåíèå êîå å ïî-äîáðèÿò âàðÿíò èëè ïî-áúðçèÿò.Åäèíñòâåíî ðàçáðàõ ÷å ACHI ïîäúðæà hotplugin.Ñåãà ñúì ñ ACHI è â äîëíèÿ äåñåí úãúë äî ÷àñîâíèêà ìè ñå ïîÿâÿâà èêîíà êîÿòî ìè êàçâà ÷å ìîãà äà ïðåìàõíà áåçîïàñíî òâúðäèÿ äèñê.Àç ëè íå ñúì íàïðàâèë íåùî êàòî õîðàòà èëè òîâà å íîðìàëíî è ACHI èëè IDE áèõòå ìè ïðåïîðú÷àëè?
    Ñ win 7 ñúì.

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    AHCI çàäúëæèòåëíî.

    À èêîíêàòà çà ïðåìàõâàíå íà òâúðäèÿ äèñê å òî÷íî hotplug îïöèÿòà. Àêî íå òå êåôè/íå òè òðÿáâà ìîæåø äà ÿ èçêëþ÷èø îò Task Manager-a è ïîñëå â íàñòðîéêèòå íà êîíòðîëåðà.
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    Çíà÷è ACHI e ïî-áúðç?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYPER View Post
    Àêî íå òå êåôè/íå òè òðÿáâà ìîæåø äà ÿ èçêëþ÷èø îò Task Manager-a è ïîñëå â íàñòðîéêèòå íà êîíòðîëåðà.
    Òîâà îò êúäå ñòàâà? Ïðåäïîëîæèõ â Device Manager, íî íå âèäÿõ ïîäîáíà îïöèÿ.
    There are no choices. Nothing but a straight line. The illusion comes afterwards when you ask "Why me?" and "What if?".
    If you had done something differently, it would be someone else, looking back, asking a different set of questions.
    /Max Payne/

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    Åòî òè ðåøåíèåòî.

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    Íÿìàì èçîáùî êàòåãîðèÿ "SCSI and RAID controlers"

    ñíèìêà
    There are no choices. Nothing but a straight line. The illusion comes afterwards when you ask "Why me?" and "What if?".
    If you had done something differently, it would be someone else, looking back, asking a different set of questions.
    /Max Payne/

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    Òîâà å ïðèìåð êúäå ìîæå äà ãî îòêðèåø - ïðè êîíòðîëåðà òè. È ïðè ìåí íå áåøå òî÷íî òîâà, íî ìè ïîìîãíà äà ñå îðèåíòèðàì.

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    È àç ïðåäïîëîæèõ, çàòîâà íà ñíèìêàòà èçêàðàõ åäèíñòâåíîòî, êîåòî ìè ïðèëè÷à íà ìîÿ êîíòðîëåð.
    Â "Storage controlers" èìà ñàìî òîÿ íà daemon tools.
    Ùå ïðîáâàì äà ïîèíñòàëèðàì äðàéâåðè è ùå âèäèì ñëåä òîâà.

    edit: Ñ èíòåëñêèÿ äðàéâåð ñúùî íå ñå ïîÿâè íèùî íîâî.
    There are no choices. Nothing but a straight line. The illusion comes afterwards when you ask "Why me?" and "What if?".
    If you had done something differently, it would be someone else, looking back, asking a different set of questions.
    /Max Payne/

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    Âå÷åðÿë ñ Ãîñïîä! MorGotH's Avatar
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    Ïóñêàì ÀHCI è èçáèðàì As Sata Type ïúê è áåç äà ãî èçáèðàì ïàê ñúùîòî è òî å : http://i52.tinypic.com/120nejq.jpg
    Òðÿáâà ëè äà ñå èíñòàëèðà íåùî çà Ñåäìèöà êàòî äðàéâåð èëè íåùî ïîäîáíî?
    Ãëåäàõ åé òîâà â ñàéòà íà Ãèãàáàéò èìà òàì ðàçíè çà AHCI ïèøå AMD SATA AHCI Driver (Preinstall driver, press F6 during Windows* setup to read from floppy) .. íî äî êîëêîòî ðàçáèðàì ñúñ ñåäåì íå å íóæåí ïîäîáåí äðàéâåð , ïúê è âå÷å èìàì èíñòàëàöèÿ íàïðàâåíà , ïðîáëåì ëè å àêî å èíñòàëèðàí íà ÈÄÅ è ñëåä òîâà ñå ïðåâêëþ÷è íà AHCI ??
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    Òðÿáâà äà ñå ïðåèíñòàëèðà óèíäîóñ ïðè òàêàâà ãèìíàñòèêà îò IDE êúì AHCI, ñëàãàø ãî íà AHCI è òîãàâà ñè íàñòðîéâàø áóóò îïöèèòå äà èíñòàëèðàø óèíà.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inside View Post
    Òðÿáâà äà ñå ïðåèíñòàëèðà óèíäîóñ ïðè òàêàâà ãèìíàñòèêà îò IDE êúì AHCI, ñëàãàø ãî íà AHCI è òîãàâà ñè íàñòðîéâàø áóóò îïöèèòå äà èíñòàëèðàø óèíà.
    Íå å çàäúëæèòåëíî, ïèñàíî å âå÷å: http://hardwarebg.com/forum/showthre...highlight=AHCI

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    Quote Originally Posted by operacom View Post
    Íå å çàäúëæèòåëíî, ïèñàíî å âå÷å: http://hardwarebg.com/forum/showthre...highlight=AHCI
    Òîâà ãî ãëåäàõ â íÿêîé ÷óæä ôîðóì , íî ñëåä îïèñàíèåòî ïèøåøå ÷å àêî èìà ñèíè åêðàíè è ò.í. íå íîñÿò îòãîâîðíîñò è ðåøèõ ÷å èìà âåðîÿòíîñò äà ñå ñêàïå íåùî è ìå äîñòðàøà.Òà ñåãà ãî íàïðàâèõ è âñè÷êî å íà AHCI ,íî 2-òà äèñêà ñåäÿò â Safety Remove Hardware.Ìîæå ëè äà ñå ìàõíå îïöèÿòà , ñëåä êàòî ðàçãëåäàõ ÿâíî òðÿáâà äà èçáåðà Quick Removal îò properties --> Policies íà ñàìèÿ äèñê â Device Manager , íî ïèøå ÷å àêî ãî èçáåðà "Disable Write Caching on the device and in Windows" òà òîÿ êåø êîôòè ëè å äà ãî íÿìà , èëè òîé òàêà èëè èíà÷å ãî íÿìà êîãàòî óñòðîéñòâîòî å íà IDE ðåæèì?

    Åäèò: Äîáðå äå íàëè AHCI áè òðÿáâàëî äà å ïî ãîëÿìîòî áúðçîäåéñòâèå ... Ïîëçâàõ BootTimer-a çà äà âèäÿ ðàçëèêàòà ìåæó äâåòå .. ñëåä 5 ðåñòàðòà íà AHCI ïðèáëèçèòåëíîòî âðåìå çà çàðåæäàíå íà îïåðàöèîííàòà ñèñòåìà å îêîëî 85 ñåêóíäè , à ïðè IDE å îêîëî 40 ñåêóíäè !?!
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    Ìàé òðÿáâà äà ñè âçåìåø SSD è ÎÑ ùå òè çàðåæäà çà 14 ñåê. Çà Safety Remove Hardware äà íå âèæäàø äèñêîâåòå ñå îáñúæäàøå è òóê

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    Ïèòàì çà âàðèàíò áåç ïðåèíñòàëàöèÿ , òîÿ ñ ïðåèíñòàëàöèÿòà å ÿñåí. È àêî ìîæå íÿêîé ñ äúíî Ãèãàáàéò êîéòî ïîëçâà AHCI äà ìè ïèøå íà ëè÷íî .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorGotH View Post
    Ïèòàì çà âàðèàíò áåç ïðåèíñòàëàöèÿ , òîÿ ñ ïðåèíñòàëàöèÿòà å ÿñåí. È àêî ìîæå íÿêîé ñ äúíî Ãèãàáàéò êîéòî ïîëçâà AHCI äà ìè ïèøå íà ëè÷íî .
    Èíñòàëèðàé îò device manager, îòêðèâàø IDE controllers, èçáèðàø ñè åäèí íàêîéòî íå å çàêà÷åí íèêàêúâ äèñê è ìó äàâàø Update driver, next, Install from speciffic location, next, don't search, next, have disk, browse, ïîñî÷âàø êúäåòî ñà ðàçàðõèâèðàíè ôàéë÷åòàòa èçòåãëåíè îò ñàéòà íà ãèãàáàéò, èçáèðàø è èíñòàëèðàø, è íà ñëåäâàùîòî ðåñòàðò ñìåíÿø íà Ahci.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anobaka View Post
    Èíñòàëèðàé îò device manager, îòêðèâàø IDE controllers, èçáèðàø ñè åäèí íàêîéòî íå å çàêà÷åí íèêàêúâ äèñê è ìó äàâàø Update driver, next, Install from speciffic location, next, don't search, next, have disk, browse, ïîñî÷âàø êúäåòî ñà ðàçàðõèâèðàíè ôàéë÷åòàòa èçòåãëåíè îò ñàéòà íà ãèãàáàéò, èçáèðàø è èíñòàëèðàø, è íà ñëåäâàùîòî ðåñòàðò ñìåíÿø íà Ahci.
    Èìà ëè çíà÷åíèå àêî ñúì ñ 2 äèñêà. ÈÄÅ êîíòðîëåðèòå èìà ÀÒÀ 0 ,ÀÒÀ 0, ÀÒÀ1 ,ÀÒÀ1 íà ïúðâîòî ÀÒÀ0 ìè å åäèíèÿ äèñê , à íà ïúðâîòî ÀÒÀ1 å âòîðèÿ äèñê è DVD-òî.Èìà ëè çíà÷åíèå íà êîé îò îñòàíàëèòå ùå úïäåéòíà äðàéâåðà èëè íå .

    Åäèò:  åäèíèÿ ñëó÷àé äàâà ÷å óñòðîéñòâîòî å Up to date è íÿìà íóæäà îò úïäåéò, à â ñëó÷àÿ ñ Have Disk è èçáèðàíå íà ïúò äî äðàéâåðà íà ãèãàáàéò ìè êàçâà äà ñå óáåäÿ ÷å ïðèëîæåíèåòî ùå ðàáîòè íà 64 áèòîâà ñèñòåìà áëà áëà è ìå âðúùà â íà÷àëíà ïîçèöèÿ ... òîåñò íå èñêà
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorGotH View Post
    Åäèò:  åäèíèÿ ñëó÷àé äàâà ÷å óñòðîéñòâîòî å Up to date è íÿìà íóæäà îò úïäåéò, à â ñëó÷àÿ ñ Have Disk è èçáèðàíå íà ïúò äî äðàéâåðà íà ãèãàáàéò ìè êàçâà äà ñå óáåäÿ ÷å ïðèëîæåíèåòî ùå ðàáîòè íà 64 áèòîâà ñèñòåìà áëà áëà è ìå âðúùà â íà÷àëíà ïîçèöèÿ ... òîåñò íå èñêà
    Àìè òðÿáâà äà èçòåãëèø 32 áèòîâ äðàéâåð çíàì ëè, ïðèìåðíî çà ìîåòî äúíî íå ðàáîòè êîé äà å äðàéâåð à òðÿáâàøå äà ãè ïðîáâàì ïîäðåä

    http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2036/clipboard01lx.png
    http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2...pboard02kv.png
    è çàáðàâèõ äà ñïîìåíà ÷å âå÷å íå ñòàâà êàê äà å, àìè òðÿáâà äà ñå äàäå DISABLE ïðåäè òîâà íà òîçè IDE êîíòðîëåð êîéòî ùå úïäåéòâàìå
    http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/19/clipboard05i.png
    http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8854/clipboard03l.png
    http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8...ipboard04j.png
    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1622/clipboard07.png
    è ñëåä òîâà êàòî êàòî ïðèêëþ÷è êàçâà, ÷å èñêà äà ãî Enablå ñå èçáèðà Cancel. è Restart

    òàêà èçãëåäæà ñ ïóñíàòî Ahci, âå÷å äðóãèòå ñà íåàêòèâíè. ò.å áåç çíà÷åíèå êîå ùå ñå óïäåéòíå.
    http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2...ipboard06i.png

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    Îáåñíÿâàø ìè íà XP àç ñúì ñ 7 , ïðåäïîëàãàì å ðàçëè÷íî ïî ïðèíöèï äàíî ñïåöèàëíî çà òîâà äà å åäíàêâî ;0
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    WIN7 íå ñòàâà! ñàìî ñèíè åêðàíè àêî ñå ïîñî÷âà ðú÷íî äîðè è â Safemode. òðÿáâà äà ñå ïðî÷åòå ïîâå÷å ïî âúïðîñà, ìîæå áè ñ èíñòàëàòîð îò ñàéò íà ãèàãàáàéò â safemode ùå ñòàíå àêî ñå áèëè äîñòàòú÷íî ñúîáðàçèòåëíè äà èçìèñëÿò.
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    Êÿðèÿòà îò AHCI å ñïîðíà. Íå ïîìíÿ êîå êàê áåøå òî÷íî, íî ñúì ñè ïðàâèë òåñòîâå è ìèñëÿ, ÷å ïîäîáðÿâà òðàíñôåðà íà ìàëêèòå ôàéëîâå, íî òè íàìàëÿâà ìàêñèìàëíàòà ñêîðîñò íà äèñêà (ïðè ïîòî÷íè äàííè íàïðèìåð). Ðàçáèðà ñå ïðè ïîâå÷åòî õîðà òðàíñôåðà íà ïî-ìàëêèòå ôàéëîâå å ïî-êðèòè÷åí, íî èìàé ïðåäâèä, ÷å îòãîâîðúò íå å òîëêîâà åäíîçíà÷åí, êîëêîòî ñè ìèñëèø.

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    Quote Originally Posted by operacom View Post
    Ìàé òðÿáâà äà ñè âçåìåø SSD è ÎÑ ùå òè çàðåæäà çà 14 ñåê. Çà Safety Remove Hardware äà íå âèæäàø äèñêîâåòå ñå îáñúæäàøå è òóê
    Íå ìè å ïðîáëåì äúëãîòî âðåìå ïî ïðèíöèï çà çàðåæäàíå íà ÎÑ , ïðîáëåì ìè å ïî áàâíîòî çàðåæäàíå ïðè AHCI îò êîëêîòî ïðè IDE
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