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    Âñè÷êî çà AMD Llano

    ÀÌÄ Ëàíî


    Ïðîöåñîðèòå ñ âãðàäåíà ãðàôèêà, ïðîèçâåäåíè ïî 32nm ïðîöåñ, ñà âå÷å òóê.


    Ðåâþòî íà hardwarebg

    Ðóñêî ñðàâíåíèå ìåæäó Llano è i3

    Ïðåãëåä íà bit-tech








    Ïðåäëàãàì òóê äà îáñúäèì íîâèòå APU-òà.

    Ìîëÿ, ìîäåðàòîðèòå äà ìå èçâèíÿò, çà ïîñòàâÿíåòî íà ëèíêîâå êúì äðóãè ñàéòîâå, íå å íàïðàâåíî ñ öåë ðåêëàìà.
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    Çäðàâåéòå! Äî êîëêîòî ðàçáðàõ òåçè AMD A8-3850 Llano è AMD A6-3650 Llano ìîæå äà ñå ïóñêàò ñ îïðåäåëåíà âúíøíà âèäåî êàðòà è äà ñå èçïîëçâàò åäíîâðåìåííî è âãðàäåíàòà â ñàìèòå òÿõ è âúíøíàòà, êîåòî ëîãè÷íî óâåëè÷àâà âèäåî ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà, çà êîè òî÷íî âúíøíè âèäåî êàðòè ñòàâà äóìà?

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    Çà ÀTI/ÀMD åñòåñòâåíî . Çà AMD Dual Graphics technology ñòàâà âúïðîñ .

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    Òî ñè å íàïèñàíî â ðåâþòî ñ êîè êàðòè ñòàâà! ÖÚÊ!

    Êàðòèòå î 6350 äî 6670 ñà ïîäõîäÿùè çà öåëòà.

    Ñïîðåä AMD, äèñêðåòíàòà ãðàôè÷íà ïëàòêà íå òðÿáâà äà å ïî-áàâíà ñ 50% èëè ïîâå÷å îò 3 ïúòè ïî-áúðçà îò âãðàäåíîòî ãðàôè÷íî ÿäðî, èíà÷å Dual Graphics ïðîñòî íÿìà äà å âúçìîæíî.

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    Ìíîãî çëîáíî À8-êà ïàäà îò Core i3, òîâà íå ãîâîðè äîáðå çà AMD, åäèíñòâåíî âãðàäåíîòî GPU ÿäðî ùå ïðîäàâà òåçè ïðîöåñîðè, ÿâíî ôèðìàòà íà òîâà ðàç÷èòà!
    [CPU:Intel Core I7 5775C][[FAN: Corsair H45][MB:Asus Z97-A][RAM:Corsair Vengeance 2133Mhz CL9 2x4GB ][Video: Intel Iris Pro 6200][SSD: Intel 335 180GB][PSU: FSP350-60EGN 90+][Monitor:Samsung SyncMaster BX2250 2ms.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthhack View Post
    Ìíîãî çëîáíî À8-êà ïàäà îò Core i3, òîâà íå ãîâîðè äîáðå çà AMD, åäèíñòâåíî âãðàäåíîòî GPU ÿäðî ùå ïðîäàâà òåçè ïðîöåñîðè, ÿâíî ôèðìàòà íà òîâà ðàç÷èòà!
    Ñúâñåì íîðìàëíî å äà ïàäà, âñå ïàê â ïðîöåñîðíàòà ñè ÷àñò (CPU ÿäðàòà) ñè å åäèí îáèêíîâåí àòëîí õ4, à òîé íå áëåñòè â ìîìåíòà íèêàê ñ íÿêàêâè èç÷èñëèòåëíè ñïîñîáíîñòè. Òîåñò äîãîäèíà ùå å äîñòà ïî-èíòåðåñíî "âòîðîòî èçäàíèå", êîãàòî ùå ïîëó÷è áóëäîçåð ÿäðà. Ñåãà èíòåðåñíàòà ÷àñò å ãðàôè÷íîòî ÿäðî, êîåòî ïðåäëàãà îòëè÷åí ïåðôîðìàíñ çà áþäæåòíèÿ ñåãìåíò íàñòîëíè PC-a.

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    Çà ìåí amd èç÷àêàõà äà âèäÿò intel êàêâî ùå íàïðàâÿò è äà íàïðàâÿò ïî äîáðî. Ïúê è 4 ÿäðà íà 2.4 äà ñà ïî-ñëàáè îò 2ÿäðà íà 3.1 amd ñå èçëàãàò íàïðàâî.
    Gigabyte P67A UD7 B3, Intel i5 2500k OC 4.4ghz (1.33v was 24/7, Noctua NH-D14 , Asus GTX 760, 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile, Cooler Master Silent PRO 850W, Samsung 850 EVO 128GB ,WD 1TB 32MB, Fractal Design R5, 2x NF A14 FLX, 2x Fractal Designs and 1x Phanteks PH-F140SP.

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    Íå ïàäà.
    Â èãðèòå âîäè óáåäèòåëíî.
    Â äðóãèòå íåùà èëè ñà ìíîãî áëèçêî, èëè intel âîäè.

    Íå ìîæåø, ïðîñòî òàêà, äà êàæåø 4 ÿäðà ñðåùó 2, çàùîòî èìà ãîëÿìî çíà÷åíèå, äîêîëêî ñà îïòèìèçèðàíè çà ïàðàëåëíà ðàáîòà èç÷èñëåíèÿòà. È ñàìè ìîæå äà ñå óâåðèòå:



    Ñúùî âèæòå è òîâà:



    Âèæòå ïðè AMD êîëêî "ïëîù" çàåìà âèäåîòî è êîëêî ïðîöåñîðà, ïðè èíòåë å ðåöèïðî÷íî. Ñúâñåì ÿñíî å êîé ïðîèçâîäèòåë íà êàêâî å çàëîæèë.

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    Áîæå êîëêî ñè åíòóñèàçèðàí zilog ... íàïðàâî ùå ðå÷åø ÷å íà ïàçàðà ñå å ïîÿâèë ðåâîëþöèîíåí ïðîäóêò.

    Íàëè çàòîâà êóïèõà ÀÒÈ ïðåäè öÿëà âå÷íîñò ... èç÷àêà èì ñå íà õîðàòà ÷àêàíåòî çà òîÿ Soc
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    Àìè òî ñè å òàêà ïúðâîòî CPU íà ÀÌÄ ñ âãðàäåíà âèäåîêàðòà â íåãî .

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    Ðåâîëþöèîíåí - íå áàø, à è êàêòî êàçà svetlyo ñå çàáàâèõà ÌÍÎÃÎ.

    Ìàé íà ïðîöåñîðà ìàêñèìóìà ìó å ~3.7 GHz (íà âúçäóõ), ïðè íàïðåæåíèå 1.5V . Äàíî äà ïóñíàò âåðñèÿ ñ îòêëþ÷åí ìíîæèòåë.

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    Òîçè ñ èçêëþ÷åí ìíîæèòåë ëè å?

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    Çàêëþ÷åí å, ìîæåø ñàìî äà ãî íàìàëÿâàø.

    Ìèñëåõ, ÷å ùå ìîæå ïîâå÷å, íî è x4 640 òîëêîâà äîñòèãà.

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    ñïîðåä ìåí, â íèñêèòå êëàñîâå íà ìàðêîâèòå ìàøèíè, òåçè ïðîöåñîðè ìíîãî ùå ñå õàð÷àò çàðàäè âèäåîòî, âúâ âñè÷êè íåñòàíäàðòíè êóòèè ñ ðàçíè ôëåêñ ðåøåíèÿ, ùå ñå èçáèÿò äà ãè ñëàãàò, êàòî ñå ñåòÿ ñàìî äåëë êîëêî âàðèàíòà èìà íà òàêèâà ìàøèíè, ëîøî ìè ñòàâà, ùå ñå çàäðúñòèì îò ëàíîòà â áëèçêî áúäåùå

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    Ìàëêî ãðóáà èãðà

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    Èíòåðåñíî! Îòêúäå ñè âçåë ñíèìêàòà, äà ïðî÷åòà êàêâî êàçâàò ïî-âúïðîñà? Âàëèäàöèÿ èìà ëè?

    Ïèøå ëè êàêâî äúíî ñà èçïîëçâàëè?

    åäèò: Ðàçãëåäàõ "ñàéòà", äîñòà èíòåðåñíè ñíèìêè èìà.

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    ln2, îáùî âçåòî èç÷åðïâà ãîðíàòà êàðòèíêà.

    chew* îò xtremesystems ãî å ïîðàçðú÷êàë ñåðèîçíî. Ïúðâèòå áðîéêè îïðåäåëåíî íå ñà êëîêúðñêè. Ïî÷òè íèêàêâî ñêàëèðàíå ñ âîëòàæà.

    Quote Originally Posted by chew*
    seriously there are many many BS results out there.

    Using some unorthodox means I tested with unlocked parts beyond the 47 limit at ref clock......

    preety much LLanos limit was 5200 on ln2, voltage scaling was poor.

    Anything far off from 5200 is BS

    Not only is there multiplier bugs there is ref clock bugs........ref clock thinks it's changed but it's really not so some of those uber ram clocks and WR's some are claiming are BS. The program is being tricked.

    Going to have to wait till software reads these parts correctly.

    Avg clocks on air/water = 3600-3700 all at stock volts to.

    Phase IIRC i tested around -40 on ln2, got you to 4.2 ish stock volts.

    Avg ln2 clocks = 5000-5200 at 1.7v........higher pissed off chips also the jump in volts was only to gain 200 mhz.......cold scaled more than volts.

    Avg ref clocks are much lower on many boards for boot making some of the speeds people are posting unrealistic for a 24/7 bootable rig.

    Max avg ref clocks are 125ish unless we some some great strides in bios's, symptoms you will find booting high, lost HD in boot.

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    Ñëåä êàòî èìà âåðñèÿ 1.58 äà ñå äàâàò "èçòðåëè" ñúñ ïî-ñòàðà âåðñèÿ å ïîâå÷å îò ñúìíèòåëíî. Âðîÿòíî å íÿêîé öèôðè äà íå ñà âÿðíè è áåç ïèïàíå íà êàðòèíêèòå ...
    Êàêòî ñå êàçâà çàáàâëåíèåòî ïðîäúëæàâà. Àç îùå î÷àêâàì ðåçóëòàòè îò Pi ïî-ìàëêî îò ñåêóíäà. Çà ñåãà ðåêîðäà êîéòî ñè ïîçâîëèõà å äà ñå îïèòàò äà ãî äîêàðòà äî ñåêóíäà è íåùî. Àêî ãî äîêàðàò äî ñòîòíè øå å ñóïåð íàïðàâî .
    Ëè÷åí - Asus ROG Strix SCAR G733QR - Ryzen 5800H/16GB DDR4/RTX 3070
    Ñëóæåáåí - Fujitsu Celsius H760 - i7-6820HQ/32GBDDR4/Quadro M1000M/m2PCIe - 1TB SSD/ SATA - 4 ÒB SSD / 2 TB SATA in caddy/
    Ñêðèò/Hidden: Ìîÿòà æåëåçàðèÿ

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    Òîâà ñúñ ñóïåð ïè-òî íå ãî ñõâàíàõ.

    A83850 ñðåùó õ4 645 è õ4 955 ñúñ ìíîæèòåë õ14,5 è âèäåî 6450. Ðàì GSKILL DDR3 2133 2GBx2

    Îò òóê

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    Èìàëî å íîâ áèîñ çà ãèãàáàéòà? Èçëÿçîõà ëè íÿêàêâè öèôðè çà âîëòîâåòå, ãëåäàì ÷å ïîâå÷åòî õîðà ãè äúðæàò ñïîêîéíî íà íàïðåæåíèå íà êîåòî ñå äúðæè 45íì ôåíîì? Ñúùî ìàëêî òåñòîâå ñ ðàì 2133, ñðåùó ïî-çàòåãíàòè òàéìèíãè è 1866, áèõà áèëè èíòåðåñíè.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disign View Post
    Èìàëî å íîâ áèîñ çà ãèãàáàéòà? Èçëÿçîõà ëè íÿêàêâè öèôðè çà âîëòîâåòå, ãëåäàì ÷å ïîâå÷åòî õîðà ãè äúðæàò ñïîêîéíî íà íàïðåæåíèå íà êîåòî ñå äúðæè 45íì ôåíîì? Ñúùî ìàëêî òåñòîâå ñ ðàì 2133, ñðåùó ïî-çàòåãíàòè òàéìèíãè è 1866, áèõà áèëè èíòåðåñíè.
    Áåç íîâ ÁÈÎÑ è ÷åñòîòàòà íå å ñòàáèëíà, íÿêúäå îêîëî 3,5 ùå äà å. Òîâà å ïðîñòî ïðîñòî äà ïîêàæå ÷å èìà êàê äà ñå âäèãíå øèíàòà. Çà ñúæàëåíèå íÿìà äà èìàì âðåìå äà ñå çàíèìàâàì ñåãà ñ òåñòîâå ñ êëîê. Êîëêîòî äî íàïðåæåíèåòî - äåôîëòà, ñïîðåä äúíîòî å 1,375 Â, à çëàòíîòî ïðàâèëî äîñåãà å ÷å ìîæå äà ñå âäèãíå íà ïîíå 10-15% íàãîðå. Èìàì îñâåí òîâà ÷óâñòâîòî ÷å òåìïåðàòóðèòå çà òîÿ ïðîöåñîð ùå èìàò ñåðèîçíî çíà÷åíèå ïðè êëîêà, òà ìîæå áè íÿìà äà å äîáðà èäåÿ äà ñå êëîêâà ñ áîêñà.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepBlue View Post
    Èìàì îñâåí òîâà ÷óâñòâîòî ÷å òåìïåðàòóðèòå çà òîÿ ïðîöåñîð ùå èìàò ñåðèîçíî çíà÷åíèå ïðè êëîêà, òà ìîæå áè íÿìà äà å äîáðà èäåÿ äà ñå êëîêâà ñ áîêñà.
    Èìàø ëè íàáëþäåíèÿ íàòîâàðâàíåòî ñàìî íà ãðàôè÷íîòî ÿäðî êàê ñå îòðàçÿâà íà òåìïåðàòóðàòà íà ïðîöåñîðà êàòî öÿëî ?
    CPU:Ryzen 7 5800X3D + Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280; MB:Asus Crosshair VII; RAM:2x8GB GSKILL F4-3200C14D-16GTZRX; VGA:Saphire RX 5700XT Nitro+; HDD:Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB+860 EVO 500GB+860EVO 1TB; PSU:Seasonic X-760; CASE:FD Define R6 TG; DSPL:Samsung C32HG70; SPKR:Logitech Z906;

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    Ñ íåðàáîòåùè èëè íåàäêâàòíè ïðîãðàìè çà çàñè÷àíå íà òåìïåðàòóðàòà å òðóäíî äà ñå íàáëþäÿâà íåùî. Îñâåí òîâà íå ñúì ñèãóðåí äàëè èçîáùî õâàùàò îòäåëåí äàò÷èê çà ãðàôè÷íîòî ÿäðî. Òîâà êîåòî ãî êàçâàì å ïî-ñêîðî ëè÷íî óñåùàíå, ïðåäâèä ïî÷òè íèêàêâîòî ñêàëèðàíå ïî íàïðåæåíèå. Èëè ïðîñòî êàêòî è ñ ïúðâèòå ôåíîìè è Ëàíîòàòà ùå ñà òîÿãè çà êëîê, äîêàòî íå èçëåçå íîâà ðåâèçèÿ.
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