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    Ìåæäóïëàíåòíè êîëîíèçàöèè - îùå åäíî íåùî ñ êîåòî áúëãàðèíúò å íàÿñíî (îòöåïåíà)



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    îòèâàìå íà Ìàðñ [;
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    Quote Originally Posted by freak-a-holic View Post
    ...îòèâàìå íà Ìàðñ [;
    È êàêâî ùå äèðèì íà Ìàðñ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero/one View Post
    È êàêâî ùå äèðèì íà Ìàðñ?
    Î÷åâèäíî, íÿìà äà ñà ëèñòà...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero/one View Post
    È êàêâî ùå äèðèì íà Ìàðñ?
    Ùå íàëîæèì áúëãàðñêèÿò çà îôèöèàëåí åçèê .

    Ó÷åíèöè îò Âàðíà ñúçäàäîõà ïðîåêò çà êîñìè÷åñêà áàçà íà Ìàðñ
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    Quote Originally Posted by freak-a-holic View Post
    Ùå íàëîæèì áúëãàðñêèÿò çà îôèöèàëåí åçèê .

    Ó÷åíèöè îò Âàðíà ñúçäàäîõà ïðîåêò çà êîñìè÷åñêà áàçà íà Ìàðñ
    Áðàâî íà äåöàòà.
    Ñåãà ïî ñúùåñòâî - âèæäàø ëè íÿêàêâà ïîëçà èëè íåîáõîäèìîñò îò "õîäåíåòî" íà õîðà äî Ìàðñ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero/one View Post
    Áðàâî íà äåöàòà.
    Ñåãà ïî ñúùåñòâî - âèæäàø ëè íÿêàêâà ïîëçà èëè íåîáõîäèìîñò îò "õîäåíåòî" íà õîðà äî Ìàðñ?
    Ìîæå äà ñè íàïðàâèì áàçà . Ìîæåì äà ñè äîáèâàìå åíåðãèÿ è êèñëîðîä . Çíàåø ëè êàê ùå ñå îëåñíÿò èçñëåäâàíèÿòà â äúëáîêèÿ êîñìîñ ?
    Åäèí äåí ùå ìîæåì äà ïðàòèì õîðà è ïî -äàëå÷ .
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    Ìîæå äà ñè íàïðàâèì áàçà .Ìîæåì äà ñè äîáèâàìå åíåðãèÿ è êèñëîðîä.
    Ëóíàòà íå å ëè ïî-ïîäõîäÿùà?
    Çíàåø ëè êàê ùå ñå óëåñíÿò èçñëåäâàíèÿòà â äúëáîêèÿ êîñìîñ?
    Íå è íå âèæäàì êàê.
    Åäèí äåí ùå ìîæåì äà ïðàòèì õîðà è ïî-äàëå÷.
    Çàùî äà ñå èçïðàùàò õîðà, êàòî ìàøèíèòå ùå ñâúðøàò ðàáîòàòà ïî-äîáðå?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero/one View Post
    Áðàâî íà äåöàòà.
    Ñåãà ïî ñúùåñòâî - âèæäàø ëè íÿêàêâà ïîëçà èëè íåîáõîäèìîñò îò "õîäåíåòî" íà õîðà äî Ìàðñ?
    Äîðè äà å ñàìî çà "òðåíèðîâêà" çà ïðåäñòîÿùè ïî-äàëå÷íè ïîëåòè, ïàê èìà îãðîìíà ïîëçà.
    Íàëè íå ïðåäëàãàø äà ñè êèñíåì íà ïëàíåòêàòà, çàùîòî "íÿìà ñìèñúë" äà ñå îïèòâàìå äà äîñòèãíåì äðóãè òàêèâà?
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    Áðàâî íà äåöàòà.
    Ñåãà ïî ñúùåñòâî - âèæäàø ëè íÿêàêâà ïîëçà èëè íåîáõîäèìîñò îò "õîäåíåòî" íà õîðà äî Ìàðñ?
    Òè âèæäàø ëè íóæäà îò õîäåíåòî äî èçîáùî íÿêúäå? Êîëóìá êàêâà ëè ïîëçà å òúðñåë? Ìàëå ïúê ïðîêëåòèòå "ìàéìóíè" àêî ñè áÿõà ñåäÿëè â Àôðèêà ïðåäè ìèëèîíè ãîäèíè êàêúâ æèâîò ùÿõà äà ñè æèâåÿò ïðîñòî íå å èñòèíà.
    Íå áúäè íàõàëåí.

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    È êàêâî ùå äèðèì íà Ìàðñ?
    Ùå áÿãàìå îò Áèã Áðàäúð è ùå îñíîâåì íîâèÿ ñâÿò
    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” ― Stephen Hawking
    "Ïåòúê" íå å äåí îò ñåäìèöàòà. Òîâà å ñúñòîÿíèå íà äóõà. - RS?
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    Öúêà÷à íà ÷åðâåíè ïàëöè äàëè ìîæå äà ñå îáîñíîâå, çàùî íå òðÿáâà äà ñå õîäè íà Ìàðñ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    Öúêà÷à íà ÷åðâåíè ïàëöè äàëè ìîæå äà ñå îáîñíîâå, çàùî íå òðÿáâà äà ñå õîäè íà Ìàðñ?
    Äàëå÷å å, ñòóäåíî å, ìúðçè ìå... ïúê è ùî äà õîäÿ êàòî ìîãà è äà íå õîäÿ.

    Íå ñúì àç öúêà÷à!
    ...à äíåñ ìîÿ ñîáñòâåí íàñëåäíèê, èçâúðøâà ãåðîéñêè áåëè,
    íå ñúì ñå èçãóáèë áåçñëåäíî, ùîì òîé ìå ïîâòàðÿ... íàëè?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aniuta View Post
    Äàëå÷å å, ñòóäåíî å, ìúðçè ìå... ïúê è ùî äà õîäÿ êàòî ìîãà è äà íå õîäÿ.
    Ùîò ñè ÷îâåê, ÷îâúðêà òå íåùî îòâúòðå äà èçñëåäâàø íåïîçíàòîòî è äà òúðñèø íîâè òåðèòîðèè
    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” ― Stephen Hawking
    "Ïåòúê" íå å äåí îò ñåäìèöàòà. Òîâà å ñúñòîÿíèå íà äóõà. - RS?
    "Àêî íå áåøå ðàêèÿòà - ùÿõìå äà èìàìå íàöèÿ îò 100% äèàáåòèöè." - ×åðíîêðèëèÿ

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    îòèâàìå íà Ìàðñ [;
    Íå âñè÷êî å öâåòÿ è ðîçè îáà÷å:

    All of this does sound pretty great, but does not account for photosynthesis in its entirety. Let’s take a look at the equation:

    6CO2 + 6H2O + --(Sunlight Energy)--> C6H12O6 + 6O2

    The Silk Leaf accounts for the input of carbon dioxide, water, and light as well as the oxygen product, but what about all the sugar? Plants don’t perform photosynthesis purely as a public service; it is done so they can create food for themselves. There isn’t an explanation as to what happens to the carbon and hydrogen that the leaf takes in. Silk Leaf lacks the vacuoles, stems, and roots that store food in plants.
    The video also claims that plants don’t grow in space, which isn’t true. There have been concerns in the past that roots require gravity in order to develop properly, but experiments from the ISS have shown that plants can grow in space. However, it would take a considerable amount of soil, water, and plants to generate enough oxygen for astronauts or a, so a lightweight alternative like Silk Leaf would be beneficial in that regard.
    Îò òóê: http://www.iflscience.com/technology...roduces-oxygen
    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” ― Stephen Hawking
    "Ïåòúê" íå å äåí îò ñåäìèöàòà. Òîâà å ñúñòîÿíèå íà äóõà. - RS?
    "Àêî íå áåøå ðàêèÿòà - ùÿõìå äà èìàìå íàöèÿ îò 100% äèàáåòèöè." - ×åðíîêðèëèÿ

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    Не е така

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    Quote Originally Posted by chavv View Post
    Íå å òàêà
    Êî ? Íå.

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    Съгласен съм с Fear, и за мен това е малоумие. Все си мисля, че реално като имаш много пари и мисленето ти се изкривява и започваш да обожаваш и боготвориш задника си. В стремежа да го облечеш, предпазиш и тн се губи връзката с нормалния свят. Примери много в нашето ежедневие. Та още не сме "пораснали" според мен технологично, а и умствено, за космоса.
    Ëîãè÷åñêà àêñèîìà: Êàêâîòî è ìíåíèå äà èçðàçèø âúâ ôîðóìà íà HWbg, âñå ùå ñå íàìåðè íÿêîé, êîéòî äà òè ïîñòàâè ÷åðâåí ïàëåö.
    Adblock Plus è äîáàâÿø ñëåäíèÿò ôèëòúð: hardwarebg.com##[id^="helpfulanswers_box_"]

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    Ñúãëàñåí ñúì ñ Fear, è çà ìåí òîâà å ìàëîóìèå. Âñå ñè ìèñëÿ, ÷å ðåàëíî êàòî èìàø ìíîãî ïàðè è ìèñëåíåòî òè ñå èçêðèâÿâà è çàïî÷âàø äà îáîæàâàø è áîãîòâîðèø çàäíèêà ñè.  ñòðåìåæà äà ãî îáëå÷åø, ïðåäïàçèø è òí ñå ãóáè âðúçêàòà ñ íîðìàëíèÿ ñâÿò. Ïðèìåðè ìíîãî â íàøåòî åæåäíåâèå. Òà îùå íå ñìå "ïîðàñíàëè" ñïîðåä ìåí òåõíîëîãè÷íî, à è óìñòâåíî, çà êîñìîñà.
    Îò äðóãà ñòðàíà, êàòî íÿìàø ïàðè, å ìàëêî íàãëî äà ñî÷èø äðóãèòå è äà èì êàçâàø äà ñå ïîðàçìúðäàò ìàëêî è èçñòðåëâàò òàì íÿêàêâè ðàêåòè è äà ïðåâçåìàò êîñìîñà, ÷å íÿìà âðåìå è íÿêîëêî õîðà îò òîÿ ôîðóì íÿìà äà ñòàíàò ñúâðåìåííèöè íà òåçè ñúáèòèÿ àêî ñå ðàçòàêàâàò îùå (ùîòî ðåàëíî çà äðóãî îñâåí ñåèð íà íèêîé îò ðàäåòåëèòå çà êîñìè÷åñêà èíâàçèÿ òóê íå ìó å æèçíåíî íåîáõîäèìî, äà íå êàæà èçîáùî). Íå çíàì êîëêî óìñòâåíî íå ñìå ïîðàñíàëè, íî ïðè ïîëîæåíèå, ÷å òóê íà Çåìÿòà íå ñìå ðåøèëè îñíîâíè ïðîáëåìè è íÿìàìå êîíòðîë íàä ïî÷òè íèùî, äà ñå çàñèëèì äà êîëîíèçèðàìå äðóãè ïëàíåòè ñ öåíàòà íà âñè÷êî, íå ìè èçãëåæäà êàòî íåùî, êîåòî ùå ïðîìîòèðà óñïåøíî ÷îâåøêèÿ ãåíèé. Ñïîðåä ìåí ñëåäâàùèÿò ñêîê â òàçè íàñîêà ùå ñòàíå ñëåä íÿêîå ïî-ôóíäàìåíòàëíî îòêðèòèå, êîåòî ùå ïîçâîëè íÿêîé îò ïî-ñúùåñòâåíèòå ïðîáëåì ïðè îâëàäÿâàíåòî íà êîñìîñà äà ñå ðåøè ñðàâíèòåëíî ëåñíî, íî ñàìîöåëíî õâúðëÿíå è íàëèâàíå íà ïàðè â ðåøàâàíåòî íà ïðîáëåìèòå ,åé òàêà çà ñïîðòà, ìè ñå âèæäà íåîïðàâäàíî è èðàöèîíàëíî, êîëêîòî è äà ñúì ïî÷èòàòåë íà ôàíòàñòèêàòà è ñúùî äà ñëåäÿ ñ èíòåðåñ äîêúäå ìîæåì äà ñòèãíåì.
    Óáèé ïðîñòàêà ñ ìúë÷àíèå

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    Н Земята не сме решили основни проблеми, не защото не можем, а защото не искаме. Има разлика! И над кое нямаме контрол, дай някакви примери, иначе думите ти са нищо друго, освен вятърничеви.

    Според мен на Луната отдавна се знае колко ценни метали има, същото важи и за Марс, и ето тука вече съм съгласен с болшенството, че първо на Луната официално трябва да построим бази (ако вече няма от сума ти години) и тогава от там да се изстрелват апарати за Марс, Йо, Титан, Ганимед и където още си искат. Хем гравитацията на луната няма да пречи, хем няма да се изисква нищо от Земята, тъй като и материалите, и командтните центрове ще са там (ако не са и вече там)

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    Í Çåìÿòà íå ñìå ðåøèëè îñíîâíè ïðîáëåìè, íå çàùîòî íå ìîæåì, à çàùîòî íå èñêàìå. Èìà ðàçëèêà! È íàä êîå íÿìàìå êîíòðîë, äàé íÿêàêâè ïðèìåðè, èíà÷å äóìèòå òè ñà íèùî äðóãî, îñâåí âÿòúðíè÷åâè.

    Ñïîðåä ìåí íà Ëóíàòà îòäàâíà ñå çíàå êîëêî öåííè ìåòàëè èìà, ñúùîòî âàæè è çà Ìàðñ, è åòî òóêà âå÷å ñúì ñúãëàñåí ñ áîëøåíñòâîòî, ÷å ïúðâî íà Ëóíàòà îôèöèàëíî òðÿáâà äà ïîñòðîèì áàçè (àêî âå÷å íÿìà îò ñóìà òè ãîäèíè) è òîãàâà îò òàì äà ñå èçñòðåëâàò àïàðàòè çà Ìàðñ, Éî, Òèòàí, Ãàíèìåä è êúäåòî îùå ñè èñêàò. Õåì ãðàâèòàöèÿòà íà ëóíàòà íÿìà äà ïðå÷è, õåì íÿìà äà ñå èçèñêâà íèùî îò Çåìÿòà, òúé êàòî è ìàòåðèàëèòå, è êîìàíäòíèòå öåíòðîâå ùå ñà òàì (àêî íå ñà è âå÷å òàì)

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    Äàæå âèêàì è åäèí ÕÀÀÐÏ äà áîäíåì íà Ëóíàòà, à?

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    Õåì ãðàâèòàöèÿòà íà ëóíàòà íÿìà äà ïðå÷è, õåì íÿìà äà ñå èçèñêâà íèùî îò Çåìÿòà, òúé êàòî è ìàòåðèàëèòå, è êîìàíäòíèòå öåíòðîâå ùå ñà òàì (àêî íå ñà è âå÷å òàì)

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    Íî ïúðâî òðÿáâà äà ñå âîäè âîéíà ñ íàöèñòèòå, êîèòî îòäàâíà èìàò áàçè íà òúìíàòà ñòðàíà íà Ëóíàòà è ðàçðàáîòâàò Âðèë-òåõíîëîãèè è íÿìà äà ðàçðåøàò íà óíòåðìåíøèòå äà ñè ñòðîÿò (îñâåí àêî íå ñå å âîäèëà òàçè âîéíà âå÷å).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickcave View Post
    NASA to Host Live Discussion on New Mars Science Results

    Äîâå÷åðà îò 21:00 áúëãàðñêî âðåìå...maybe, maybe....

    NASA Finds Ancient Organic Material, Mysterious Methane on Mars
    NASA’s Curiosity rover has found new evidence preserved in rocks on Mars that suggests the planet could have supported ancient life, as well as new evidence in the Martian atmosphere that relates to the search for current life on the Red Planet. While not necessarily evidence of life itself, these findings are a good sign for future missions exploring the planet’s surface and subsurface.

    The new findings – “tough” organic molecules in three-billion-year-old sedimentary rocks near the surface, as well as seasonal variations in the levels of methane in the atmosphere – appear in the June 8 edition of the journal Science.

    Organic molecules contain carbon and hydrogen, and also may include oxygen, nitrogen and other elements. While commonly associated with life, organic molecules also can be created by non-biological processes and are not necessarily indicators of life.

    “With these new findings, Mars is telling us to stay the course and keep searching for evidence of life,” said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters, in Washington. “I’m confident that our ongoing and planned missions will unlock even more breathtaking discoveries on the Red Planet.”

    “Curiosity has not determined the source of the organic molecules,” said Jen Eigenbrode of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, who is lead author of one of the two new Science papers. “Whether it holds a record of ancient life, was food for life, or has existed in the absence of life, organic matter in Martian materials holds chemical clues to planetary conditions and processes.”

    Although the surface of Mars is inhospitable today, there is clear evidence that in the distant past, the Martian climate allowed liquid water – an essential ingredient for life as we know it – to pool at the surface. Data from Curiosity reveal that billions of years ago, a water lake inside Gale Crater held all the ingredients necessary for life, including chemical building blocks and energy sources.

    “The Martian surface is exposed to radiation from space. Both radiation and harsh chemicals break down organic matter,” said Eigenbrode. “Finding ancient organic molecules in the top five centimeters of rock that was deposited when Mars may have been habitable, bodes well for us to learn the story of organic molecules on Mars with future missions that will drill deeper.”

    Seasonal Methane Releases

    In the second paper, scientists describe the discovery of seasonal variations in methane in the Martian atmosphere over the course of nearly three Mars years, which is almost six Earth years. This variation was detected by Curiosity’s Sample Analysis at Mars (SAM) instrument suite.

    Water-rock chemistry might have generated the methane, but scientists cannot rule out the possibility of biological origins. Methane previously had been detected in Mars' atmosphere in large, unpredictable plumes. This new result shows that low levels of methane within Gale Crater repeatedly peak in warm, summer months and drop in the winter every year.

    "This is the first time we've seen something repeatable in the methane story, so it offers us a handle in understanding it," said Chris Webster of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, lead author of the second paper. "This is all possible because of Curiosity's longevity. The long duration has allowed us to see the patterns in this seasonal 'breathing.'"

    Finding Organic Molecules

    To identify organic material in the Martian soil, Curiosity drilled into sedimentary rocks known as mudstone from four areas in Gale Crater. This mudstone gradually formed billions of years ago from silt that accumulated at the bottom of the ancient lake. The rock samples were analyzed by SAM, which uses an oven to heat the samples (in excess of 900 degrees Fahrenheit, or 500 degrees Celsius) to release organic molecules from the powdered rock.

    SAM measured small organic molecules that came off the mudstone sample – fragments of larger organic molecules that don’t vaporize easily. Some of these fragments contain sulfur, which could have helped preserve them in the same way sulfur is used to make car tires more durable, according to Eigenbrode.

    The results also indicate organic carbon concentrations on the order of 10 parts per million or more. This is close to the amount observed in Martian meteorites and about 100 times greater than prior detections of organic carbon on Mars’ surface. Some of the molecules identified include thiophenes, benzene, toluene, and small carbon chains, such as propane or butene.

    In 2013, SAM detected some organic molecules containing chlorine in rocks at the deepest point in the crater. This new discovery builds on the inventory of molecules detected in the ancient lake sediments on Mars and helps explains why they were preserved.

    Finding methane in the atmosphere and ancient carbon preserved on the surface gives scientists confidence that NASA's Mars 2020 rover and ESA’s (European Space Agency's) ExoMars rover will find even more organics, both on the surface and in the shallow subsurface.

    These results also inform scientists’ decisions as they work to find answers to questions concerning the possibility of life on Mars.

    “Are there signs of life on Mars?” said Michael Meyer, lead scientist for NASA's Mars Exploration Program, at NASA Headquarters. “We don’t know, but these results tell us we are on the right track.”

    This work was funded by NASA's Mars Exploration Program for the agency’s Science Mission Directorate (SMD) in Washington. Goddard provided the SAM instrument. JPL built the rover and manages the project for SMD.
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