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    Ïîìîðèéñêà äîìàøíà ðàêèÿ TyRsEn's Avatar
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    Èçáîð íà ðåñèâúð è Dolby Atmos ãîâîðèòåëè

    Çäðàâåéòå! Ïðåäè äâà ìåñåöà ìè ñå ðàçâàëè ñèñòåìàòà îò ïîäïèñà - Logitech Z906. Íîñèõ ÿ íà ñåðâèç è ìè êàçàõà, ÷å íå ïîäëåæè íà ðåìîíò (DSP ïëàòêàòà å èçãîðÿëà èëè íåùî ïîäîáíî).
    Òà ñå íàâèõ äà ñè êóïÿ íîâà ñèñòåìà çà äîìàøíî êèíî. Ïðî÷åòîõ çà Dolby Atmos, çà òîâà ÷å òîâà å òåõíîëîãèÿòà â ïîñëåäíèòå 20 ãîäèíè, çà êîÿòî ñè çàñëóæàâà äà ñå èíâåñòèðà.

    Íå ðàçïîëàãàì ñ ãîëÿì áþäæåò è ñå ñïðÿõ íà ïî-íèñúê êëàñ òîíêîëîíè è ðåñèâúð. Ñòàâà âúïðîñ çà ðåñèâúð Denon AVRX1500H (èëè AVRX1400H) è Onkyo SKSHT588 5.1.2 ñèñòåìà.
    Ñïîðåä âàñ äîáúð èçáîð ëè ñà â òîçè êëàñ è èìà ëè äðóãè ïî-äîáðè ìîäåëè, ñ êîèòî äà ãè çàìåíÿ.

    Èíòåðåñóâà ìå è ìîùíîñòòà äàëè ùå ìè å äîñòàòú÷íà - ñóáóôåðúò ïðè Onkyo ãî äàâàò 80W, äîêàòî ïðè Logitech Z906 áåøå 165W. Ñðàâíåíèåòî ìåæäó ìîùíîñòòà îáà÷å, íå çíàì äàëè å ìåðîäàâíî, çàùîòî âàòîâåòå ãè äàâàò ïðè ðàçëè÷íè èçìåðâàíèÿ - 165 watts (6 ohms, at 52 Hz, at 10% THD) çà Logitech è 80 W (Minimum Continuous Power, 4 Ω, 100 Hz, 1%, IEC) çà Onkyo.

    Ñìÿòàì äà ïîðú÷àì âúïðîñíèòå êîìïîíåíòè îò Amazon DE, çàùîòî òàì ñà äîñòà ïî-åâòèíè îò ìàãàçèíèòå â Áúëãàðèÿ. Àêî íÿêîé å ïàçàðóâàë îò òàì òàêèâà êîìïîíåíòè, ìîëÿ äà ñïîäåëè îïèò.

    È êàòî çà êðàé - ñìÿòàì äà ïðåïðàâÿ Logitech-à êàòî ìó èçêàðàì ïëàòêèòå è ñëîæà óñèëâàòåë, çà äà ìîæå äà ñå ïîëçâà ñèñòåìàòà êúì ðåñèâúð. Ìîæåòå ëè äà ìè ïðåïîðú÷àòå ïîäõîäÿù çà öåëòà óñèëâàòåë - ïðåäïîëàãàì òðÿáâà äà å íàä 150 âàòà?

    Ï.Ñ.: Ñòàÿòà, â êîÿòî ùå áúäàò òîíêîëîíèòå íå å ìíîãî ãîëÿìà - 17 êâ. ì. ñ ïî-âèñîê òàâàí (2,80 ìåòðà).

    Íàäÿâàì ñå äà íå ñúì âè îòåã÷èë ñ äúëãèÿ ïîñò!
    Ïîçäðàâè!
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    Çäðàâåé êîëåãà è àç ðàçó÷àâàì íåùàòà îò äîñòà âðåìå è óñèëâàòåëÿ å ñóïåð çà ïàðèòå ñè. Íÿìà ñìèñúë è îò ïî ñêúï òîçè å íàïúëíî äîñòàòú÷åí, íî çà îçâó÷èòåëíèòå òåëà íèùî íå ìîãà äà êàæà, àç ëè÷íî ñúì ñå ñïðÿë íà äðóãè.
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    Ïîìîðèéñêà äîìàøíà ðàêèÿ TyRsEn's Avatar
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    Ìîæå ëè äà ñïîäåëèø êàêâè îçâó÷èòåëíè òåëà ñè ñè èçáðàë?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyRsEn View Post
    Ìîæå ëè äà ñïîäåëèø êàêâè îçâó÷èòåëíè òåëà ñè ñè èçáðàë?
    Àç ìàëêî ñúì ïî êàïðèçåí è èñêàì äà ãè èçïîëçâàì è çà ìóçèêà è ñúì ñå ñïðÿë íà åòî òîâà: https://www.avitel-bg.com/dali-zensor-family-7-black
    Ïëþñ òîâà: https://www.avitel-bg.com/dali-altec...atmos-speakers
    Íî èìà è ïî åâòèíè âàðÿíòè: https://www.avitel-bg.com/dali-zenso...-black-5_1-set
    Àêî ïàðèòå ñà ïðîáëåì. È Äðóãîòî âàæíî íåùî å äà èìàø ñ êàêâî äà ïîäàäåø ñèãíàë íà Ðåñèâúðà çà àòìîñ.
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    Ìíîãî ìè èçëèçàò èçâúí áþäæåòà, èíà÷å ñúì ãè çàãëåæäàë è àç. Ñïîðåä òåá èìà ëè ñìèñúë îò Denon AVRX1500H, ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å AVRX1400H å ïî÷òè ñúùèÿ ìîäåë ñ ìíîãî ìàëêî ðàçëèêè - ëèïñà íà æàê çà ãðàìîôîí, Audio D/A converter 32bit/192kHz ñðåùó 24bit/192kHz è ìàëêî ïî-ìàëêî âõîäîâå. Ðàçëèêàòà â öåíàòà å îêîëî 100 ëâ.
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    Íåãî íå ñúì ãî ðàçãëåæäàë íî àç ëè÷íî ïðåäïî÷èòàì äà èìà â ïîâå÷å îò êîëêîòî äà ìè ïîòðÿáâà è äà ãî íÿìà. Ïðîñëóøâà ñúì ãî íÿêîëêî ïúòè è îïðåäåëåíî çà ïàðèòå ñè å ñóïåð. Äðóã âàðÿíò å: https://www.avitel-bg.com/pioneer-s-es21tb
    È ïîåòàïíî äà ñè âçåìåø áàñà è àòìîñ êîëîíèòå.
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    Ùå ãè ïîãëåäíà, áëàãîäàðÿ!
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    Íå ðàçáðàõ ïîñëåäíèÿ ïîñò - êàê îòäåëíî äà ñå ñâúðçâàò êîëîíèòå? Åäíàòà äâîéêà ÿ ñâúðçâàø êúì ðèñèâúðà çà êèíî, à äðóãàòà êúì óñèëâàòåëÿ - çà ìóçèêà?
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    Ïðåäïîëàãàì, ÷å andrejandrej èìà ïðåäâèä èíòåãðèðàíå íà ñòåðåîóñèëâàòåë êúì ìíîãîêàíàëíà ñèñòåìà çà äîìàøíî êèíî. Òàêà, ÷å õåì äà èìàø âèñîêîêà÷åñòâåíî ñòåðåî, õåì ìíîãîêàíàëåí çâóê.
    Ìúðçè ìå äà îáÿñíÿâàì. Çàòîâà - åòî åäíà ñòàòèÿ ïî âúïðîñà:

    https://www.avguide.bg/?page_id=230

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    Áëàãîäàðÿ çà èíôîðìàöèÿòà!

    À íÿêîé ìîæå ëè äà ìè ðàçÿñíè êàêâî çíà÷àò òåçè ÷èñëà è êàêâà å ðàçëèêàòà ìåæäó THD è IEC - 165 watts (6 ohms, at 52 Hz, at 10% THD) çà Logitech è 80 W (Minimum Continuous Power, 4 Ω, 100 Hz, 1%, IEC)?
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    Òîâà å íà áúðçî ðàçêàçàíî : https://www.avitel-bg.com/news.php?news=11
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    Áëàãîäàðÿ!  êðàéíà ñìåòêà ñìÿòàì äà âçåìà Denon AVRX1400H è Onkyo SKSHT588 5.1.2, íàäÿâàì ñå äà ñè ñòðóâàò ïîâå÷åòî ïàðè, â ñðàâíåíèå ñ Logitech Z906.
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    Íÿìà êàê äà ñå Ñðàâíÿâàò. À äà íå ãîâîðèì çà íàñòðîéêèòå êîéòî ïðåäëàãà Ðåñèâúðà.
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    Òîçè êîìïëåêò íà Îíêèî íå ñâèðè äîáðå (çà ìåí).
    Woofer-à å ìàëêî ïðîáëåìåí, ãóãúëíè SKW-658 auto turn off è ÷åòè.

    Âçåìè ñè ðåñèâúð, êîéòî äà ïîääúðæà ïîíå 5.1.4, ÷å êàòî ñå âêàðàø âúâ ôèëìà è íÿìà èçëèçàíå.
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    Ïóñíàõ òúðñåíå â Ãóãúë ñ êëþ÷îâà äóìà "SKW-658 auto turn off", íî ìè èçëÿçîõà ñàìî äâå òåìè ñ ïîäîáåí ïðîáëåì, â åäíàòà å çàìåíåí ãàðàíöèîííî ñóáóôåðà, çà äðóãàòà íå ïèøå ðàçâèòèå. Ìîæå ëè ëèíê, àêî ïðîïóñêàì íåùî?

    Ðåñèâúð ñ 5.1.4 (9.2) íÿìà êàê äà ñè âçåìà, çàùîòî ñòðóâà äâîéíî íà 7.2 ìîäåëèòå. Èìà ãîëÿìà ðàçëèêà ìåæäó áþäæåò 1500 ëâ. è 5000 ëâ. ïðèìåðíî!
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