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16th June 2020 18:30 #1
i5 10400 vs R5 3600 è Óäà÷åí ëè å âñå îùå R5 2600 çà RTX 2080
R5 3600 è i5 10400 êàòî ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò èçãëåæäàò ìíîãî áëèçêè åäèí äî äðóã.
Íå ìîæå i5 10400 äà å ïî-ïðîèçâîäèòåëåí â èãðè è åäíîâðåìåííî ñ òîâà äà å ïî-ñëàá.
Òðÿáâà ìè íåùî ïîâå÷å, çà äà ìè äàêàæåø òâúðäåíèåòî ñè.
LGA 1200 êàòî öÿëî äàëå÷ íå ìè èçãëåæäà òîëêîâà "DOA" êàêòî ñå ãîâîðè...

Íàòîâàðåíîñòòà íà ïðîöåñîðà â % å îïðåäåëÿù ôàêòîð â ñëó÷àÿ?
Íå.
Òîêó-ùî ïðîâåðèõ:
i5-10400F + Asrock H410M-HVS = 335 + 130 = 465 ëâ.
R5 3600 + Asus Prime B450M-K = 360 + 118 = 478 ëâ.
Òîâà å íàé-åâòèíèÿ âàðèàíò, êîéòî íàìèðàì.
Intel Core i7-10700F = 665 ëâ.
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X = 626 ëâ.
Âñè÷êè öåíè ñà îò Æàð.
Õîðàòà äà ñè âçèìàò êàêâîòî ñè èñêàò.
Íà ìåí ìè å ïèñíàëî äà ñëóøàì êàê ãîëåìèòå êîìïàíèè ìàíèïóëèðàò ïàçàðúò è ïîòðåáèòåëèòå, à ïî-ìàëêèòå ïðîèçâåæäàò "íåùî, êîåòî â äåéñòâèòåëíîñò ñè çàñëóæàâà ïàðèòå".
Ïðèìåðåí ñàéò, êúäåòî ïî÷òè âñè÷êè ïðîöåñîðè ñà ïîäðåäåíè ïî ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò - ËÈÍÊ
R5 2600 íà Single-Core Performance å ìíîãî íàäîëó, íà 73,9% îò ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà íà i7 10700K.
Ñïîðåä òåá íèêîãà íå ñúì âèæäàë ñðàâíåíèÿ â èãðè ñ äðóãè ïðîöåñîðè òî÷íî íà ìîÿòà ðåçîëþöèÿ 1440p?
 TechPowerUp (Game Tests) R5 2600 íà 1080p å 85% îò ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà íà i5-10400F, à íà 1440p e ñúîòâåòíî 92%.
Äîáðå, íî ïîãëåäíè ìó êîíôèãóðàöèÿòà:
Case: Phanteks P400s Silent edition no window
CPU: Ryzen 2600 4.2GHZ 1.4V
MOBO: ASUS X370 ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO
GPU: Palit RTX 2080 GAMING PRO overclocked 125mhz core 700mhz memory
RAM: 16 GB (2x8) Team Dark Pro 8 Pack Edition 3600 running @ 3466mhz 14-14-14-34 at 1.4v
OS SSD: HyperX fury 240gb
Games: 2TB toshiba p300 7200rpm 3.5"
Cpu Cooler: Infront corsair h90 140 aio with two noctua industrial 140 fans in push pull.
Cooling: Intake 1 extra 140 noctua industrial
Exhaust: 1 xNoctua NF-S12A PWM CHROMAX 1200 RPM
paste: Arctic mx4
PSU: EVGA 600w White
Âèäåî êàðòàòà ùå ñìåíÿì, êîãàòî èçëåçå RTX 3080 Ti. Àêî RTX 3080 ñè çàñëóæàâà ñïðÿìî ìîÿòà, ìîæå è íåÿ.
Íàïðàâèõ òåñòîâå:
2560 x 1440, 75Hz
FC New Dawn Benchmark - Average FPS - 83; Minimum FPS - 55; Maximum FPS - 124;
FC 5 Benchmark - Average FPS - 94; Minimum FPS - 75; Maximum FPS - 121;
AC Odyssey Benchmark - Average FPS - 60; Minimum FPS - 33; Maximum FPS - 109;
AC Origins Benchmark - Average FPS - 72;
Shadow of the Tomb Raider Benchmark - Average FPS - 88.
3620 x 2036, 75Hz
Far Cry Primal Benchmark - Average FPS - 64; Minimum FPS - 57; Maximum FPS - 74;
Need For Speed 2016 Online - Average FPS - 74; Minimum FPS - 59; Maximum FPS - 87; (MSI Afterburner)
DOTA 2 Offline - Average FPS - 123; Minimum FPS - 30; Maximum FPS - 196. (MSI Afterburner)
Âñè÷êè òåñòâàíè èãðè ñà íà ìàêñèìàëíè ãðàôè÷íè íàñòðîéêè.
Èçêëþ÷åíèå å ñàìî Tomb Raider Benchmark, êúäåòî DLSS - Îff è SMAAT2x.
Îáùî âçåòî, ìíîãî äîáðè ðåçóëòàòè.
RTX 2080 Boost Clock: 1860 MHz, Memory Clock: 1750 MHz; R5 2600 @stock; XPG GAMMIX 2x8GB 3000MHz 16-18-18-36-54-1.
GPU-Z
CPU-ZB550 AORUS Pro V2 R7 5800X3D + Liquid Freezer II 280 32GB B-die DDR4@3733-16-16-16-36 2TB AORUS Gen4 AORUS RX 6800 XT MASTER Corsair RM850x TT Core P8 AORUS FI27Q-X@240Hz
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16th June 2020 19:09 #2
Åäèíèÿ ïðîöåñîð ùå ñòàíå íà ãîäèíêà ñëåä 2-3 ñåäìèöè, à äðóãèÿ å íà åäèí ìåñåö îò êàêòî å ïóñíàò íà ïàçàðà. Èç÷àêàé 3600XT è òîãàâà ãëåäàé ðåçóëòàòèòå 10400F vs. 3600XT.
ï.ï. È ñè ðåäàêòèðàé çàãëàâèåòî íà òåìàòà.Last edited by zaiche; 16th June 2020 at 19:09.
MB:ASRock B450 Steel Legend/CPU:Ryzen5 1600AF/GPU:MSI GeForce GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB/Nvme:Silicon Power P34A80 512GB /Cooler:Arctic Freezer 34eSports DUO/ RAM:2x8GB DDR4 3200 T-Force VulcanZ /CASE: DeepCool Matrex 55 Mesh /PSU:Seasonic GM-650W /Monitor:LG 25" UltraWide® 25UM58-P
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16th June 2020 19:45 #3
3600XT ùå å 500ëâ è ñàìî 100ìõ. áóñò. íàä 3600Õ Äà íå ìèñëèø, ÷å ùå ìó ïîìîãíå? Íå çíàì êîé ùå ãî êóïóâà òîâà. Îñâåí äà èç÷àêà äà ñòàíå 350. Âèæ ðåâþòî íà @DeepBlue êúäå ñòîè 3600@4350.
10400Ô â ìîìåíòà ñå íàìèðà çà 336ëâ.Last edited by Mitos; 16th June 2020 at 19:45.
NZXT H7 Flow Matte Black |MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 | i7-13700KF@8xP5.6, 2xP5.8, E4.4, R4.8GHz, PL1/PL2-280W | NZXT Kraken X73 | G.SKILL Trident Z 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600@4000MHz 17/16/16/34 1T | PALIT RTX 4070 Ti GamingPro OC | Xonar DSX | Philips 223V5 | CM Silent Pro M1000 | SSD 500GB| WD BLUE 1TB 64MB
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16th June 2020 19:50 #4* Intel® Core™ i7-13700KF * ASUS Maximus Z790 Apex * G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 2X16GB @7600MHz (A-die) * Palit RTX 4070Ti Gaming Pro OC * Cooler Master V1000W * AIO NZXT Kraken X73 * MetallicGear Neo Qube Black * Kingston FURY Renegade 1TB * Samsung 860 QVO 1TB * 32" iiyama ProLite XB3270QS *
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16th June 2020 20:17 #55600X w/Thermaltake PA120 SE | MSI B550 Tomahawk | 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix Black DDR4-3933 CL16 | ASUS Dual RTX 3060 Ti OC v2 | Samsung 960 EVO 250GB + Crucial MX500 500GB + 2TB Toshiba HDD | Cougar VTX500 PSU | Cougar MX330 Mid-Tower | Gigabyte G27Q | Logitech X530 5.1
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16th June 2020 20:19 #6Plan ₿
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Àêî å ñèñòåìà íà êîÿòî â 99% îò âðåìåòî ùå ñå èãðàÿò èãðè è ùå ñå áðàóçâà, òî ñ 10400F íà òàÿ öåíà îò 336ëâ. ñòàâà ìíîãî äîáðà äîìàøíà ìàøèíà, íî â íèêàêúâ ñëó÷àé ñ H410 ÷èïñåò. Òîâà äîðè íÿìà m.2, à è íàé-âåðîÿòíî çàðàäè ÷èïñåòà è çàõðàíâàùàòà ñõåìà ïðîöåñîðà íÿìà äà áóóñòâà òîëêîâà, êîëêîòî íà B460 äúíî. ASRock B460M-HDV å 170ëâ. è íå ïðåäëàãà íåùî êîé çíàå êîëêî çà òèÿ ïàðè, òà àêî ñå òúðñè àäåêâàòíî äúíî çà òîÿ ïðîöåñîð ñè îòèâàø íàä 200ëâ. äîêàòî äúíà ñ B450 çà AMD çà 150ëâ. èìà ñ 4 ñëîòà çà ïàìåò, m2 è âúçìîæíîñòè çà îâúðêëîê ñ îõëàæäàíå íà VRM-èòå. Òà ÿçúê çà öåíàòà íà ïðîöåñîðà, êàòî äúíàòà ñà ñêúïè.
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16th June 2020 21:10 #7
Íÿêîè äúíà ñà âñå îùå ñêúïè â ÁÃ, â íåìñêî öåíèòå ñà ñè ïðèëè÷íè. Åòî åäíî B460 êîåòî å ïîä 200 ëâ è èäåàëíî ïàñâà íà 10400F, èìà ñè âñè÷êî çà òàêúâ ïðîöåñîð:
Asrock B460 Phantom Gaming 4 - 190 ëâ + i5-10400F - 338 ëâ (ñ áåçïëàòíà äîñòàâêà)
Îáùî 528 ëâ
Ñúñ 101.0 MHz øèíà è áóòâàíå íà power limit-à íà 125W åòî òè åäíè 100MHz îòãîðå, à ìîæå è ïîâå÷å.
Last edited by Mech; 16th June 2020 at 21:13.
* Intel® Core™ i7-13700KF * ASUS Maximus Z790 Apex * G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 2X16GB @7600MHz (A-die) * Palit RTX 4070Ti Gaming Pro OC * Cooler Master V1000W * AIO NZXT Kraken X73 * MetallicGear Neo Qube Black * Kingston FURY Renegade 1TB * Samsung 860 QVO 1TB * 32" iiyama ProLite XB3270QS *
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16th June 2020 21:33 #8
btw, Core i5-10600KF å 512 ëåâà, àêî äî÷àêàø ïîðú÷êàòà äå - àêî ùå å çà èãðè, îðÿçàí i5 å îïèò äà ñå ìèíå òúíêî, àìà … Àëòåðíàòèâàòà å 3600X (äàæå áåç T) ïàðòèäà îò òàçè ãîäèíà.
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." - Bruce Lee
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23rd June 2020 22:01 #9
Òåñòîâå R5 2600 vs i7-10700K:
2560 x 1440, 75Hz
FC New Dawn Benchmark - Average FPS - 83; Minimum FPS - 55; Maximum FPS - 124;
FC New Dawn Benchmark - Average FPS - 102; Minimum FPS - 84; Maximum FPS - 125; Average FPS + 23%, Minimum FPS + 53%
FC 5 Benchmark - Average FPS - 94; Minimum FPS - 75; Maximum FPS - 121;
FC 5 Benchmark - Average FPS - 105; Minimum FPS - 95; Maximum FPS - 119; Average FPS + 12%, Minimum FPS + 27%
AC Odyssey Benchmark - Average FPS - 60; Minimum FPS - 33; Maximum FPS - 109;
AC Odyssey Benchmark - Average FPS - 62; Minimum FPS - 39; Maximum FPS - 108; Average FPS + 3%, Minimum FPS + 19%
AC Origins Benchmark - Average FPS - 72;
AC Origins Benchmark - Average FPS - 76; Average FPS + 6%
Shadow of the Tomb Raider Benchmark - Average FPS - 88. - Áåç ðàçëèêà.
3620 x 2036, 75Hz
Far Cry Primal Benchmark - Average FPS - 64; Minimum FPS - 57; Maximum FPS - 74; - Áåç ðàçëèêà.
Need For Speed 2016 Online - Average FPS - 74; Minimum FPS - 59; Maximum FPS - 87; (MSI Afterburner) - Áåç ðàçëèêà.
DOTA 2 Offline - Average FPS - 123; Minimum FPS - 30; Maximum FPS - 196. (MSI Afterburner)
DOTA 2 Offline - Average FPS - 180; Minimum FPS - 113; Maximum FPS - 214. (MSI Afterburner) Average FPS + 47%, Minimum FPS + 273%
RTX 2080 Boost Clock: 1860 MHz, Memory Clock: 1750 MHz; i7 10700K @stock; XPG GAMMIX 2x8GB 3000MHz 16-18-18-36-54-1.
GPU-Z
CPU-Z
Äðóãà èãðà, êîÿòî ìíîãî ìè õàðåñâà å Metro Exodus. Intel èìàò ìàëêî ïðåäèìñòâî ïðåä AMD â íåÿ, íî íå ñúì ïðàâèë òåñòîâå.
Ïðè DOTA 2 â èãðà ñ áîòîâå íå çíàì çàùî ñå ïîëó÷àâà òàêàâà ãîëÿìà ðàçëèêà. È â äâàòà ñëó÷àÿ FPS îãðàíè÷èòåëÿ áåøå íà 240 FPS.
Ïî-òî÷íè è ÷åñòíè ðåçóëòàòè îò òåçè, íå ìîãà äà äàì.B550 AORUS Pro V2 R7 5800X3D + Liquid Freezer II 280 32GB B-die DDR4@3733-16-16-16-36 2TB AORUS Gen4 AORUS RX 6800 XT MASTER Corsair RM850x TT Core P8 AORUS FI27Q-X@240Hz





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