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10th November 2020 21:41 #1
Apple ïðîöåñîðè
Äíåñ Apple ïðåäñòàâèõà íîâèòå ñè ïðîöåñîðè:
- 5‑nanometer process
- The first personal computer chip built with this cutting‑edge technology.
- 16 billion transistors. The most we’ve ever put into a single chip.


M1 also features our unified memory architecture, or UMA. M1 unifies its high‑bandwidth, low‑latency memory into a single pool within a custom package. As a result, all of the technologies in the SoC can access the same data without copying it between multiple pools of memory. This dramatically improves performance and power efficiency. Video apps are snappier. Games are richer and more detailed. Image processing is lightning fast. And your entire system is more responsive.
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10th November 2020 21:48 #2Registered User
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Çà ìîìåíòà ïîääúðæàò ñàìî äî 16ãá
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10th November 2020 21:49 #3
Òîâà ñòðóâà ëè ñè äà ñå ãëåäà? Çàùîòî ïóñíàõ ñëó÷àéíî íà 23ìèí è ñàìî íÿêàêúâ áåçìîçú÷åí Åïúëñêè õàéï áåç íèùî ñúùåñòâåíî. Èìà ëè íÿêàêâà êîíêðåòíà âàæíà èíôîðìàöèÿ ñ áåí÷îâå, èëè å âñå îò òîÿ òèï?!
PS: È êàêâî å "latest PC laptop chip"? Íÿêîé öåëåðîí?Last edited by DoC; 10th November 2020 at 21:50.
Ñåêè ñàì ñè ïðåöåíÿ.
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10th November 2020 22:14 #4
Ñðàâíÿâàò ãî ñ i9-9880H (8/16 core).
A14X Bionic to Be ‘Nearly on Par’ With 8-Core Intel Core i9-9880H, According to Fresh Performance Analysis
A14X Bionic Core Count, Clock Speeds, Performance Stats Leak out – Easily Outperforms a Core i9 16-inch MacBook Pro
GeekBench 5
- Unnamed device (A14X Bionic)
Single-core score- 1634
Multi-core score- 7220
- 16-inch MacBook Pro
Single-core score- 1096
Multi-core score- 6869
- iPad Air 4 (A14 Bionic)
Single-core score- 1583
Multi-core score- 4198Last edited by Mech; 10th November 2020 at 22:19.
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10th November 2020 23:13 #5madridista
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Ñðàâíåíèå íà Anandtech íà À14 ÷èïà â iPhone 12
ñðåùó high end laptop chip (Intel i7-1185G7 with LPDDR4X-4266 28W) è high-end desktop chip (5950X with DDR-3200 49W).
Âïå÷àòëÿâàùî ïðåäñòàâÿíå çà òàêàâà íèñêà êîíñóìàöèÿ. Íå ìèñëåõ, ÷å ñà òîëêîâà íàïðåä.PC [AsRock B550M Pro4 || Ryzen 7 4750G PRO Dark Rock 4 || RX 6700 || 16GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3000Mhz || CM H500P Mesh]
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11th November 2020 08:19 #6
Íà âòîðà ñòðàíèöà å îïèñàíà è ìèêðîàðõèòåêòóðàòà, ñðàâíåíà ñ Intel è AMD - https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226...14-deep-dive/2 - îáùî âçåòî èìàò ïî ïîâå÷å îò âñè÷êî.
What really defines Apple’s Firestorm CPU core from other designs in the industry is just the sheer width of the microarchitecture. Featuring an 8-wide decode block, Apple’s Firestorm is by far the current widest commercialized design in the industry. IBM’s upcoming P10 Core in the POWER10 is the only other official design that’s expected to come to market with such a wide decoder design, following Samsung’s cancellation of their own M6 core which also was described as being design with such a wide design.
Other contemporary designs such as AMD’s Zen(1 through 3) and Intel’s µarch’s, x86 CPUs today still only feature a 4-wide decoder designs that is seemingly limited from going wider at this point in time due to the ISA’s inherent variable instruction length nature, making designing decoders that are able to deal with aspect of the architecture more difficult compared to the ARM ISA’s fixed-length instructions.A +-630 deep ROB is an immensely huge out-of-order window for Apple’s new core, as it vastly outclasses any other design in the industry. Intel’s Sunny Cove and Willow Cove cores are the second-most “deep” OOO designs out there with a 352 ROB structure, while AMD’s newest Zen3 core makes due with 256 entries, and recent Arm designs such as the Cortex-X1 feature a 224 structure.svetlyo, êúäå ñè???What’s interesting here is again the depth of which Apple can handle outstanding memory transactions. We’re measuring up to around 148-154 outstanding loads and around 106 outstanding stores, which should be the equivalent figures of the load-queues and store-queues of the memory subsystem. To not surprise, this is also again deeper than any other microarchitecture on the market. Interesting comparisons are AMD’s Zen3 at 44/64 loads & stores, and Intel’s Sunny Cove at 128/72. The Intel design here isn’t far off from Apple and actually the throughput of these latest microarchitecture is relatively matched – it would be interesting to see where Apple is going to go once they deploy the design to non-mobile memory subsystems and DRAM.Last edited by moridinbg; 11th November 2020 at 08:20.
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12th November 2020 07:53 #8
Êàòî èçêëþ÷èì òèÿ íà êîèòî èì òðÿáâà ÿáúëêàòà, çà êàôåòî â ñòàðáúêñ, åïúë ïðàâÿò ìíîãî îïòèìèçèðàíè ïðîäóêòè. Çà ìóçèêàíòè, â ÷óæáèíà ìíîãî ïèñàòåëè, ñúùî ïîëçâàò åïúë ñèñòåìàòà è final cut å îòëè÷åí èçáîð çà àìàòüîðñêî âèäåî. Ñåãà îòðÿçàõà wacom ñ åêñòåíä íà åêðàíà çà ðèñóâàíå èëè 2-ðè ìîíèòîð ñ èïàäà. Procreate å ìíîãî ïðèÿòíà ïðîãðàìà çà ðèñóâàíå è ìàëêè àíèìàöèè. Ïîìíåòå ìè äóìèòå, ùå èì ñå ñëó÷àò íåùàòà, ïîðàäè Îïòèìèçàöèÿòà! Õàðäóåðà èì å ñàìî åäèí è å íîðìàëíî òåõíèòå ïðîäóêòè äà âúðâÿò ìàçíî è áúðçî... Äàëè å êðàÿ íà èíòåë èëè ïö, òâúðäî íèå
Íî ïðåäñòîè èíòåðåñíî âðåìå íà ïðîìåíè, îò êîèòî ñå íàäÿâàì äà ñïå÷åëèì ñàìî íèå ïîòðåáèòåëèòå, ñ ïî-åâòèíè è êà÷åñòâåíè ïðîäóêòè 
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íà Åïúë íèêîãà íå èì å ïóêàëî çà ñúâìåñòèìîñò ñúñ ñòàðè ïðèëîæåíèÿ (6800->PPC->x86->ARM) - êàêòî è íà ôåíîâåòå/ïîòðåáèòåëèòå èì.
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íå ìðàçÿ Åïúë (èìàì äàæå òàáëåò), íî íå ãè âúçïðèåìàì íà ñåðèîçíî!Last edited by uf32; 12th November 2020 at 08:10.
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Àêî íÿêîé ìîæå äà íàêàðà äèíîçàâðè, êàòî Àäîáè äà èçêàðàò àðì âåðñèè íà ñîôòóåðà ñè, òîâà ñà ÿáúëêèòå. Òîâà å åäèíñòâåíîòî ïîëîæèòåëíî íåùî, êîåòî âèæäàì. Èíà÷å çàòâîðåíàòà ÿáúëêîâà ãðàäèíêà, ùå ñòàíå îùå ïî-çàòâîðåíà, äà ñå çàáàâëÿâàò âúòðå ôåíîâåòå ïî-êà÷åñòâåíî.
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12th November 2020 11:52 #11
Òîâà ìè å áîëíà òåìà. Äåöàòà â ïúðâè êëàñ ñå îïðàâÿò ñ àíäðîèäèòå. Îáà÷å ùîì ñòàâà äóìà çà Åïúë óñòðîéñòâà, å ïúëíà ìúêà, õîðà îò âñÿêàêâà âúçðàñò ìå ìîëÿò çà åëåìåíòàðíè íåùà êàòî ñà ñè ñâàëÿò ñíèìêèòå ïðèìåðíî. Ãóáÿ ñòðàøíî âðåìå. Õè÷ íå ìè ïîìàãà, ÷å âñå òàêà å ìîäåðíî äà ñè ñ íàãðèçàí òåëåôîí è âñÿêâè ìàëîóìíè èíäèâèäè ãè ïàçàðÿò. Òàêà ÷å êàòî õàðäóåð ìîæå äà ñà ïðåêðàñíè, íî ñîôòóåðà èì è çà ÷åï çà çåëå íå ñòàâà. Ñúæàëÿâàì ìíîãî çà Óèíäîóñ ôîíåòî - ïîêàçàõà êàê òðÿáâà äà ðàáîòè åäíà çàòâîðåíà ñèñòåìà. Àêî ìîæå äà ñå ïîðòíå äðóãà os íà íîâèòå èì ïðîöåñîð÷åòà, ùå å ñóïåð.
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17th November 2020 20:34 #12
Apple ïðîöåñîðè
Surface book-a ãè íàêàçà âñè÷êèòå! Åïúë ùå å èíòåðåñíî äà âèäèì êàê ùå îïòèìèçèðà ñîáñòâåíèÿ ñè ñîôò, à èìåííî Final Cut è íàé-âå÷å ìåí ìå âúëíóâà adobe êàê ùå êîïàò arm.
PS íèêîé ñ ìàê íå ñè èãðàå íà cinebench, òîâà â ëþáèìàòà èãðà íà ìíîãîÿäðåíèòå amd-òà.
PS2 òîëêîâà ìíîãî ñîôò ùå ñòàíå íåíóæåí îò òàçè êðà÷êà íà åïúë, íå ìè å æàë çà ÷àñîâåòå êîèòî êîäåðèòå ñà ïèñàëè. Íàëè ãè ìðàçèì, à è áåç òîâà ñà ñè èçêàðàëè ïàðèòå. Äðàìàòà å çà öåëèÿ ui/ux êîéòî ùå îòèäå áàäÿâà!
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17th November 2020 20:36 #13Registered User
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Ùå ïðåêîìïèëèðàò è àêî ñà "ñòèìóëèðàíè" ìîãàò äà äàäàò íÿêîëêî ïëúãèí-à çà êîïðîöåñîðèòå îò êîèòî ùå èìà ãîëÿìà ïîëçà.
Ïðåäè ãîäèíè íåéòèâ âåðñèÿòà íà Ôîòîøîï çà Ïàóúð ÐÑ ïðåäèçâèêà èñòèíñêè øîê ñ áúðçîäåéñòâèåòî ñè. Ïðåäïîëàãàì åôåêòà ñåãà ùå å ñúùèÿ.Last edited by svetlyo; 17th November 2020 at 20:39.
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