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    Õðàíè òðîëîâå. JaddF's Avatar
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    Cool Steam Deck îò Valve (2022)



    https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck

    https://www.steamdeck.com/en/

















    - - - Àâòîìàòè÷íî ñëåòè ìíåíèÿ - - -

    Âàëâ ðåøèõà ïðîñòî äà ïîãðåáàò Íèíòåíäî îò íåìàé ñè ðàáîòà
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    Ïîðòàòèâíî PC... íèùî íîâî. Îò ãîäèíè ñè èìà GPD Win, aya neo è äðóãè òàêèâà êîèòî èçãëåæäàò ïî-äîáðå îò òîâà íåùî íà Valve. Íå âèæäàì êàê ùå ïîãðåáàò êîéòî è äà å ñ òàêèâà íåùà.
    X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING | Ryzen5 2600 |2x16GB Corsair LPX 3200Mhz | EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition Gaming|512GB Samsung 970 Pro +
    512GB ADATA SU800| Corsair HX1200i | Corsair Graphite 600t |BENQ PD3200U

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    Íà ìåí ìè õàðåñâà êàê èçãëåæäà. Ñèãóðíî ñè çàñëóæàâà çà õîðà, êîèòî ïúòóâàò ìíîãî.
    MSI B550 Bazooka / Ryzen 5 5600x - Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black (10x to hwbg) / Gainward 4080 Phantom / Corsair Vengeance 4x8GB DDR4 3200 / CM-690 II Advanced / Crucial_CT250MX200 / RM 850X / LG C2 OLED 42"

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    Steam îòäàâíà íå å òîâà êîåòî áåøå ïðåäè. Íå, ÷å íÿìà äà ñå ïðîäàâà, íî è íÿìà äà ïðåîáúðíå ãåéìèíäóñòðèÿòà.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanmx View Post
    Ïîðòàòèâíî PC... íèùî íîâî. Îò ãîäèíè ñè èìà GPD Win, aya neo è äðóãè òàêèâà êîèòî èçãëåæäàò ïî-äîáðå îò òîâà íåùî íà Valve. Íå âèæäàì êàê ùå ïîãðåáàò êîéòî è äà å ñ òàêèâà íåùà.
    À öåíèòå íà èçáðîåíèòå êàêâè ñà? Öåíàòà íà GPD Win Max íà ïðåîðåäåð ìàé áåøå 779 USD?

    Íàé-åâòèíèÿò ìîäåë íà Steam Deck (399 USD) e ñ 64GB eMMC, êîåòî ìè èçãëåæäà äîñòà ìàëêî êúì äíåøåí äåí. Ñëåäâàùèÿò, êîéòî å ñ 256GB PCIe NVMe, èçëãåæäà ïî-äîáðå, íî öåíàòà ñêà÷à íà 529 USD.
    Ùå âèäèì äàëè ùå ñå êóïóâàò.

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    Àäñêè ìå êåôè òàçè äæàäæà. Åòî Âèäåî
    “Each of us is more than the worst thing we’ve ever done.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaddF View Post
    ...Âàëâ ðåøèõà ïðîñòî äà ïîãðåáàò Íèíòåíäî îò íåìàé ñè ðàáîòà
    Âàëâ ñà ðåøèëè äà êîïèðàò Ñóè÷, íå âèæäàì êàêâî òîâà çàñÿãà Íèíòåíäî. Òåõíèÿò êàòàëîã è ôåíáåéç ãè íÿìà íèêîÿ äðóãà êîìïàíèÿ. Ïî-ëîøîòî å, ÷å íÿìàì ñïîìåí çà óñïåøåí ïðîäóêò íà Âàëâ â ïîñîêàòà, à òîâà ìè õàðåñâà êàòî êîíöåïöèÿ.

    • Ìîæåø äà èçâàäèø ÷îâåêà îò ñåëîòî, íî ñåëîòî îò ÷îâåêà - íèêîãà
    • Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us
    • Soul platinum 1 and 2. See? It's not the game - you suck.


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    Âàëâ èìàò óíèêàëíèÿ òàëàíò äà ïðåäîñòàâÿò ïðîäóêòè, êîèòî íèêîé íå èñêà, íèòî î÷àêâà.
    In the mouth of madness.

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    Èñêðåíî ñå íàäÿâàì äà èì ñå ïîëó÷è PCSwitch-à, çàùîòî ìè õàðåñâà ìíîãî. Îñîáåíî àêî ñå îêàæå, ÷å ùå âúðâÿò ãîðå-äîëó îê èãðèòå.
    Äà íå ãîâîðèì, ÷å ñ òîÿ õàðäóåð ìîæå è ïî-ñúâðåìåííàòà åìóëàöèÿ äà ïîòðúãíå.

    • Ìîæåø äà èçâàäèø ÷îâåêà îò ñåëîòî, íî ñåëîòî îò ÷îâåêà - íèêîãà
    • Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us
    • Soul platinum 1 and 2. See? It's not the game - you suck.


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    Åäèíñòâåíî íå ìå êåôè, ÷å êîíòðîëåðèòå íå ñà ìîäóëíè êàòî ïðè Íèíòåíäî. Êàê ëè , ùå ñå ñìåíÿò ïðè àðìîòèçèðàíå/ïðîáëåì!?
    “Each of us is more than the worst thing we’ve ever done.”

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    Äèãèòàëíîòî ãðîáèùå å ïúëíî ñ ïîãðåáâà÷êè íà Nintendo ...âå÷å ìÿñòî íÿìà çà íîâè ïîïúëíåíèÿ.

    Âñúøíîñò è âèðòóàëíîòî, ãðîáèùå ñå ïðåïúëíè ñ cloud ãåéìèíã ñòðèìèíã ïëàòôîðìè "óáèëè è ïîãðåáàëè" êîíçîëèòå.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostik79 View Post
    Âàëâ èìàò óíèêàëíèÿ òàëàíò äà ïðåäîñòàâÿò ïðîäóêòè, êîèòî íèêîé íå èñêà, íèòî î÷àêâà.
    E, 'aéäå ñåãà... Âñè÷êè èñêàò è î÷àêâàò HalfLife 3, àìà...
    █████
    █████ PC

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    HL3 ùå èçëåçå çàåäíî ñ òðåòèÿ úïãðåéä íà Ñòèéì Äåêà Òîâà ñè å ÐÑ íàëè íå ñìÿòàòå, ÷å ùå ñå ðàçìèíå áåç åæåãîäåí úðãìåéä ?

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    If you run you'll only die tired.

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    Äîáðà èäåÿ å äà èìàø ïîðòàòèâíî pc áåç ëèìèòàöèÿ , êàêòî å ñóè÷à!

    Àêî åìóëàòîðèòå çà ñóè÷ è ïñ3 âúðâÿò äîáðå àáñîëþòíî ñè çàñëóæàâà .

    Èçïðàòåíî îò ìîÿò SM-G975F ñ ïîìîùòà íà Tapatalk

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    Õðàíè òðîëîâå. JaddF's Avatar
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    Îò ñàéòà íà Steam deck è IGN èíòåðâþòàòà:
    - Çà îñíîâà ñå ïîëçâà Arch(OS) + Linux(Kernel) + KDE Plasma 5 (Desktop Environment) = SteamOS3
    - Çà compatibility layer ïîëçâàò Proton (fork îò Wine), êîéòî å íàé-äîáðàòà òåõíîëîãèÿ çà native translation íà Windows binary executable (.exe ôàéëîâå + áèáëèîòåêè)

    Îãðîìíèÿò ïëþñ íà Ïðîòîí å, ÷å çàðàäè ñïîíñîðèðàíåòî îò ñòðàíà íà Âàëâ â ïðîåêòà èì, èìà íåâåðîÿòåí ïðîãðåñ â ñúçäàâàíåòî íà áèáëèîòåêè ñ Vulkan çà Direct3DX-9,10,11 (DXVK) è Direct3DX12 (VKD3D-Proton), êîèòî ïîçâîëÿâàò èãðà íà èãðè êîìïèëèðàíè çà Window ñ ïî÷òè íåçàáåëåæèìî íàìàëåíèå íà ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà. Ñïîìåíà ñå ñúùî, ÷å ùå èìà îãðîìåí úïäåéò íà Ïðîòîí â èäíèòå ìåñåöè, êîéòî çíà÷èòåëíî ùå ïîäîáðè ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà è ñúâìåñòèìîñòòà, íàé-âå÷å çà anti-cheat êëèåíòèòå êàòî BattleEye / EasyAntiCheat, êîèòî ùå ïîçâîëÿò ñâîáîäíàòà èãðà ïîä Ëèíóêñ çà ìàñîâèòå ìóëòèïëåúð øóóòúðè.

    Îòäåëíî â êðàéíà ñìåòêà APUòî ( RDNA2 ) ïîçâîëÿâà èíñòàëàöèÿòà è óïîòðåáàòà íà äðóãè îïåðàöèîííè ñèñòåìè - Windows,Linux(distros), à íàé-âåðîÿòíî íÿìà äà èìà íèêàêâè ïðîáëåìè ñ Dual-boot îò âúòðåøíàòà ïàìåò èëè âúíøíàòà eSATA/HDD/SSD/HS SD êàðòà. Åñòåñòâåíî íå ñòàâà è äóìà íà âúïðîñ çà âèðòóàëèçàöèÿ, íî Proton ïîçâîëÿâà òàêà èëè èíà÷å óïîòðåáàòà íà âñÿêàêúâ ñîôòóåð îò Windows, à ïîâå÷åòî ãåéìèíã ïðîèçâîäèòåëè èìàò è êëèåíòè çà Ëèíóêñ. Âå÷å ñå ñïåêóëèðà óïîòðåáàòà íà Xbox Game Pass äèðåêòíî íà Äåêà.

    Çà ìåí êîíçîëàòà å óáèåö íà Íèíòåíäî, çàùîòî òå íå ñìîãâàò äà ñúçäàâàò äîñòàòú÷íî áúðçî AAA/AA/indie èãðè îò First Party ñòóäèàòà ñè, òà ñïåöèàëíî çà Switch êîíçîëàòà ðàç÷èòàò èçêëþ÷èòåëíî ìíîãî íà ïîðòîâå è third-party èãðè, êîèòî ùå âúðâÿò â ïúòè ïî-äîáðå íà Deck â handheld èëè dock ðåæèì.  äîïúëíåíèå äî êîëêîòî ÷åòà (íå ñúì ëè÷íî çàïîçíàò), îò ãëåäíà òî÷êà íà åìóëàöèÿ çà ñòàðè èãðè (íàé-âå÷å íà Íèíòåíäî òàêèâà), êîíçîëàòà å ïåðôåêòíîòî ðåøåíèå è ùå ñòèãíå äî ñèòóàöèÿ, â êîÿòî Deck ùå ïîääúðæà ïî-ãîëÿì ñïåêòúð èãðè îò Switch, áåç äîðè äà êîìåíòèðàì áåçïëàòíèÿ ñðåùó ïëàòåí åëåìåíò.

    Îòêúì óäîáñòâî çà óïîòðåáà è èãðà â handheld ðåæèì ò.í ìîæå äà ñå ñïîðè, îñîáåíî çàðàäè òåæåñòòà, íî òðÿáâà äà ñå èìà ïðåäâèä ÷å SteamOS ïîääúðæà àáñîëþòíî âñè÷êè òèïîâå êîíòðîëåðè ñ native èëè emulated (DirectInput) íà÷èí íà ðàáîòà, òà àêî íÿêîé íå ìó õàðåñâà form-factor-à íà êîíòðîëåðèòå âèíàãè ìîæå äà ñè ïîëçâà Xbox/Playstation/3rdParty êîíòðîëåðè èëè äîðè Joy-cons, êîèòî äúëáîêî ñå ñúìíÿâàì äà áúäàò ìàñîâî ïðåäïî÷èòàíè ïðåä full-scale analog ñòèêîâåòå íà Steam Deck-a. Âñå ïàê èìà è îùå äâå îïöèè - äâîéíè touchpad-îâå è æèðîñêîï.

    Çà ôèíàë å õóáàâî äà ñå îòáåëåæè, ÷å öåíàòà êàòî ïîçèöèîíèðàíå å ïàê ïî-íèñêà îò åäíà êàðòà êàòî Nvidia RTX3060 â ìîìåíòà, êîåòî äàâà ïàçàðíî ïðåäèìñòâî çà ìàñîâèÿ ïîòðåáèòåë, êîéòî íå ñå öåëè â AAA/4k/120FPS ñåãìåíòà, à èñêà äà èìà õèáðèäíà ìàøèíà çà íàé-íîâèòå èãðè. Äîêèíã ñòàíöèÿòà å íà Âàëâ ðåøåíèåòî, òà âñåêè ìîæå äà ñè êóïè îò Àìàçîí çà 30 åâðî äîêèíã ñòàíöèÿ ñ USB-C è HDMI2.1 / DP1.4, àêî íå ãî óñòðîéâà îôèöèàëíàòà öåíà è èñêà äà èìà ðåæèì íà èãðà ïðåä ìîíèòîðà/òåëåâèçîðà.









    ArchLinux = https://wiki.archlinux.org/
    Arch repo for steam = http://repo.steampowered.com/arch/valveaur/
    KDE Plasma 5 = https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/
    SteamOS = https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/s...latforms/linux
    Proton = https://www.protondb.com/
    Wine = https://www.winehq.org/
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    Ïúðâàòà êîíçîëà ñ êîíçîëà

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    Çà ìåí êîíçîëàòà å óáèåö íà Íèíòåíäî, çàùîòî òå íå ñìîãâàò äà ñúçäàâàò äîñòàòú÷íî áúðçî AAA/AA/indie èãðè îò First Party ñòóäèàòà ñè, òà ñïåöèàëíî çà Switch êîíçîëàòà ðàç÷èòàò èçêëþ÷èòåëíî ìíîãî íà ïîðòîâå è third-party èãðè, êîèòî ùå âúðâÿò â ïúòè ïî-äîáðå íà Deck â handheld èëè dock ðåæèì.
    Æåñòîê àíàëèç!

    • Ìîæåø äà èçâàäèø ÷îâåêà îò ñåëîòî, íî ñåëîòî îò ÷îâåêà - íèêîãà
    • Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us
    • Soul platinum 1 and 2. See? It's not the game - you suck.


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    Â ìîìåíòà àêî ñå êóïè íàé-íèñêèÿ ìîäåë, íå å ëè íàé-äîáðå è ïîñëå äà ñå ïîñòàâè åäíè nvme ?
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    Èãðèòå ùå ðàáîòÿò äîáðå è îò õóáàâà sd êàðòà, áåç äà îòâàðÿø óñòðîéñòâîòî íåíóæíî.
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    Àç ñúì ñ 512nvme + 512sd + 256sd. È âå÷íî íå ìè ñòèãà ìÿñòî. Êàòî íà 256sd ìè ñåäè ñàìî èíñòàëàöèÿòà íà EmuDeck-à è ðîìîâåòå íà èãðèòå çà åìóëàòîðèòå.

    Êîå è êàê äà òè ñòèãíå ïðè äíåøíèòå èãðè ? Ñàìî Mass Effect Legendary-òî å 110GB. Îòäåëíî SteamOS-a áëúñêà çäðàâî åäèí äÿë "other" â êîéòî íåïðåñòàííî ñâàëÿ íÿêàêâè ïðå-êåøèðàíè øåéäåðè àìà åæåäíåâíî íåùî ðúãà òàì. È òîçè äÿë âå÷å å íàä 50GB è êàòî íèùî ùå èäå äî 100GB.

    Àç ñúì ñè îïðåäåëèë òàêà ...âñè÷êî äî 20GB èãðà íå ìíîãî òåæêà îòèâà íà sd êàðòàòà. (samsung pro plus ñèíè÷êèòå). Ïî-òåæêè èãðè èëè íàä 20GB íà nvme-òî. Îñòàâèë ñúì ñè åäíà óìðÿëà íå ìíîãî áúðçà sandisk 256 çà åìóëàòîðèòå. Îáðúùàéòå âíèìàíèå êîÿ êàðòà êîëêî ïå÷å, ñàíäèñêà ïðè òåæêà èãðà (çàòîâà ÿ îñòàâèõ çà ðîìîâå ñàìî) íàïè÷à ñëîòà îòäîëó äî ñòåïåí äà íå ìîæå äà ñå ïèïíå êàðòàòà ñ ïðúñò ! samsung-à íå ãî ïðàâè.

    ï.ñ. Ñåãà ùå ñå ïîÿâè ìîÿ ïðèÿòåë ñ 64GB-îâèÿ äåê è 64GB-îâàòà êàðòà äåòî ÿ èìà è ùå êàæå íà ìåí âñè÷êî ìè ñòèãà
    Last edited by Zografa; 9th January 2023 at 10:31.

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    64GB ìîäåë ñ 512gb êàðòà ñàíäèñê. Íà ññä-òî èìà ñàìî Windows 11 ñúñ Steam beta, âñè÷êî îñòàíàëî å íà êàðòàòà è íå ñúì ïîïàäàë íà èãðà, êîÿòî äà ïðàâè ïðîáëåì, ÷å íå å íà ññä.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swnny View Post
    64GB ìîäåë ñ 512gb êàðòà ñàíäèñê. Íà ññä-òî èìà ñàìî Windows 11 ñúñ Steam beta, âñè÷êî îñòàíàëî å íà êàðòàòà è íå ñúì ïîïàäàë íà èãðà, êîÿòî äà ïðàâè ïðîáëåì, ÷å íå å íà ññä.
    Íà Steam OS ëè ñè èëè èíñòàëèðà Windows ?

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    64GB-àòà âåðñèÿ íÿìà ëè âìåñòî SSD, ñàìî eMMC, êîåòî å âèä âãðàäåíà sd-êàðòà?

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