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    DARK user xeo's Avatar
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    Âñè÷êî çà NVIDIA RTX 4070/4080/4090 + Ti ìîäåëè

    Íà ÿñíî ñìå, ÷å å ïðîòèâîðå÷èâî ïîêîëåíèå, íî íå áèâà äà ñìå áåç òåìà:

    Îôèöèàëíàòà ñòðàíèöà íà nvidia çà 4000:
    NVIDIA Ada Lovelace Architecture

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    Ëèïñâà õàéïà çà ìîìåíòà, íî äà âèäèì êàêâî ùå èçëåçå. Òî÷à 3090-êàòà

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    Îïðàâè çàãëàâèåòî xeo. Òðÿáâà äà å Âñè÷êî çà NVIDIA RTX 4080/4080/4090

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    Quote Originally Posted by djasdkas View Post
    Îïðàâè çàãëàâèåòî xeo. Òðÿáâà äà å Âñè÷êî çà NVIDIA RTX 4080/4080/4090
    Íå òîé ñè å ïðàâ, êàðòàòà ñ 12ãá íå å 4080
    Last edited by KeepWalkinG; 1st October 2022 at 17:02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djasdkas View Post
    Îïðàâè çàãëàâèåòî xeo. Òðÿáâà äà å Âñè÷êî çà NVIDIA RTX 4080/4080/4090
    Quote Originally Posted by KeepWalkinG View Post
    Íå òîé ñè å ïðàâ, êàðòàòà ñ 12ãá íå å 4080
    Äà, ìàëêàòà 4080 å äîáðå ìèíå êðúùåíå, à è äà ñïåñòèì èíòåðíåò, çà íà÷àëîòî íà ñëåäâàùàòà ãîäèíà.
    Òîÿ ôèëì ñìå ãî èãðàëè âå÷å.

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    Å ïðîñòî êàòî îáÿâàò îôèöèàëíî è 4070 ùå ñå ïèøå òóê.

    Èëè ùå èìà îòäåëíà òåìà çà 4070/4060òè/4060.
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    Òî ìîÿ ñòðèêñ 3080 êàòî ìó ïëúçíà ñëàéäåðà çà power íà 121% è ìîùíî êëîê ñè äúðïà ïîíÿêîãà 460w. Òàêà ÷å òèÿ ëàìè ìîæå è äà ìèíàò 600 êàòî ñòîè òà ãëåäàé...

    Èçïðàòåíî îò ìîÿò M2102J20SG ñ ïîìîùòà íà Tapatalk
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    È ñåãà ñå î÷àêâà 4090 òóê äà å îêîëî 5 áîíà ïðåäïîëàãàì...
    Íå çíàì êàê ìèñëèòå êîëåãè, íî ìè ñå ñòðóâà ÷å òàêúâ ðàçìåð êàðòè å ìåêî êàçàíî íåíîðìàëíî îãðîìåí.
    Àêî ïðîäúëæàâàò òàêà äî 5 ãîäèíè êàðòèòå ùå òåæàò ïî 10 êèëà + åäíàòà.
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    Âñè÷êè ñå âúçìóùàâàò êîëêî å ãîðåùà è òåæêà, íî òðúïíàò â î÷àêâàíå äà áîäíàò åäíà â êîìïà
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    Quote Originally Posted by AVATARAT View Post
    Âñè÷êè ñå âúçìóùàâàò êîëêî å ãîðåùà è òåæêà, íî òðúïíàò â î÷àêâàíå äà áîäíàò åäíà â êîìïà
    Öåíàòà ùå å ìíîãî íåõóìàííà òóê, ñúìíÿâà ìå òî÷íî 4090 äà ñå ïðîäàâà ìíîãî.
    Äà âèäèì êàê ùå ñåäÿò íåùàòà ñ 4080 16gb
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    Quote Originally Posted by sekofena View Post
    È ñåãà ñå î÷àêâà 4090 òóê äà å îêîëî 5 áîíà ïðåäïîëàãàì...
    Íå çíàì êàê ìèñëèòå êîëåãè, íî ìè ñå ñòðóâà ÷å òàêúâ ðàçìåð êàðòè å ìåêî êàçàíî íåíîðìàëíî îãðîìåí.
    Àêî ïðîäúëæàâàò òàêà äî 5 ãîäèíè êàðòèòå ùå òåæàò ïî 10 êèëà + åäíàòà.
    Ìåí ðàçìåðèòå íå ìå ïðèòåñíÿâàò, äàæå áèõ êàçàë ÷å ìå ðàäâàò - â ñìèñúë ùå ñå îõëàæäà àäåêâàòíî. Ïîäîáíè êàðòè èçèñâàò, ðàçáèðà ñå, è äðóãèÿ õàðäóåð îêîëî òÿõ äà å íà ïîäîáíî íèâî - â ñìèñúë ùå ñå ïîëçâà â àäåêâàòíà êóòèÿ, åâåíòóàëíî äàæå âåðòèêàëíî ìîíòèðàíà, è ò.í.

    Åäèíñâåíî öåíàòà å êîåòî å ïëàøåùî... è... íå ñúì ñèãóðåí ÷å ùå ñå õàð÷àò ìíîãî...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsp View Post
    Ïîäîáíè êàðòè èçèñâàò, ðàçáèðà ñå, è äðóãèÿ õàðäóåð îêîëî òÿõ äà å íà ïîäîáíî íèâî - â ñìèñúë ùå ñå ïîëçâà â àäåêâàòíà êóòèÿ, åâåíòóàëíî äàæå âåðòèêàëíî ìîíòèðàíà, è ò.í.
    Ñïîðåä ìåí ÍÅàäåêâàòíà êàðòà èçèñêâà è ÍÅàäåêâàòíà êóòèÿ, ÍÅàäåêâàòíè ïîäïèðà÷êè, ÍÅàäåêâàòåí òðàôîïîñò è òåì ïîäîáíè ÍÅàäåêâàòíîñòè.
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    Áåç ÄËÑÑ áå õîðà. ×èñòî ðàñòåðíà ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò. È ãëåäàì îñíîâíè ïðè unreal 4 åíäæèí èãðè.
    Ïðîñòî ãðóáà ñèëà õ2 ñïðÿìî 3080.
    Åãàòè.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radkox View Post
    Áåç ÄËÑÑ áå õîðà. ×èñòî ðàñòåðíà ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò. È ãëåäàì îñíîâíè ïðè unreal 4 åíäæèí èãðè.
    Ïðîñòî ãðóáà ñèëà õ2 ñïðÿìî 3080.
    Åãàòè.
    Òàêà å çàÿâåíî, àìà äàëè íå øìåêåðóâàò íåùî? Òî ïîìíèì è çàÿâåíèòå GB âèäåîïàìåò â ìèíàëîòî, äîêàòî íå ãè õâàíàõà â "ëåêà ïîäðîáíîñò" (äà íå êàæà ëúæà).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exhumator View Post
    Òàêà å çàÿâåíî, àìà äàëè íå øìåêåðóâàò íåùî? Òî ïîìíèì è çàÿâåíèòå GB âèäåîïàìåò â ìèíàëîòî, äîêàòî íå ãè õâàíàõà â "ëåêà ïîäðîáíîñò" (äà íå êàæà ëúæà).
    Íå ðàçáðàõ çà êàêâî òî÷íî âèçèðàø äà øìåêåðóâàò?
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    Quote Originally Posted by overcrash View Post
    Íå ðàçáðàõ çà êàêâî òî÷íî âèçèðàø äà øìåêåðóâàò?
    Äàëè òîçè ïîäîçðèòåëåí ñêîê â ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà, íå å áëàãîäàðåíèå íà íÿêîé òðèê êàòî âêàðâàíå íà äîïúëíèòåëíè êàäðè êàòî ïðè ôèëìèòå çà ïî-ãëàäêî äâèæåíèå. Íåùî êîåòî òå ñàìèòå ðåêëàìèðàò.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exhumator View Post
    Äàëè òîçè ïîäîçðèòåëåí ñêîê â ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà, íå å áëàãîäàðåíèå íà íÿêîé òðèê êàòî âêàðâàíå íà äîïúëíèòåëíè êàäðè êàòî ïðè ôèëìèòå çà ïî-ãëàäêî äâèæåíèå. Íåùî êîåòî òå ñàìèòå ðåêëàìèðàò.
    Íå ìèñëÿ, ÷å èìà øìåêåðóâàíå, ïðîñòî ìíîãî ïî-äîáúð ïðîöåñ TSMC NP5 custom ñïðÿìî SS 8nm, ñàìî áðîÿ íà òðàíçèñòîðèòå, ðàçëèêàòà â ÿäðàòà è ÷åñòîòàòà äà ñìåòíåø ïî ãðóáà ñìåòêà è ñè èçëèçà åäíî 80% îòãîðå ñïðÿìî 3090.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exhumator View Post
    Äàëè òîçè ïîäîçðèòåëåí ñêîê â ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà, íå å áëàãîäàðåíèå íà íÿêîé òðèê êàòî âêàðâàíå íà äîïúëíèòåëíè êàäðè êàòî ïðè ôèëìèòå çà ïî-ãëàäêî äâèæåíèå. Íåùî êîåòî òå ñàìèòå ðåêëàìèðàò.
    Îùå ïðåäè ñåäìèöè èçâúðøèõà àíàëèç êàêâà å î÷àêâàíàòà ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò íà RTX 4000 áåç/ñúñ DLSS. Íå ìîãà äà íàìåðÿ ñåãà êëèïà îáà÷å ïðîãíîçèðàõà ïîäîáíè ïðîöåíòè êàêâèòî âèæäàìå ñåãà. È óâåëè÷åíèåòî â ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà èäâà îò 56% ïîâå÷å CUDA ÿäðà, 800+ mhz ÷åñòîòà, 75% ïîâå÷å RT ÿäðà è ðàçáèðà ñå íîâàòà àðõèòåêòóðà. Ëîøîòî å ÷å ïî ñïîìåí êàêâîòî âèäÿõ çà 4080-êàòà â ñðàâíåíèå ñúñ 3080-êàòà ðàçëèêàòà ùå å ìíîãî ìàëêà è íÿìà äà ñè çàñëóæàâà. Ùå èç÷àêàìå è ùå ðàçáåðåì äà âèäèì. Îòäåëíî ñå ãîâîðåøå, ÷å ðàçìåðúò íà îõëàæäàíèÿòà å ñ òàêúâ ðàçìåð çàùîòî ñà î÷àêâàëè íå TSMC àìè Samsung ÷èïîâå äà èçïîëçâàò è çà äà äîêàðàò ñúùàòà ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò å òðÿáâàëî íå 450W àìè 600W äà äîñòèãàò, íî ñåãà ñå îêàçâà ÷å èçïîëçâàò òåõíîëîãè÷íèÿ ïðîöåñ íà TSMC è ñåãàøíîòî ïîêîëåíèå ùå èìà îõëàæäàíèÿ ïðåäâèäåíè çà 600W êàðòè ñúîòâåòíî ùå èìà ìåãäàí çà çíà÷èòåëåí îâúðêëîê ïðè êàðòè îò 4000-òà ñåðèÿ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exhumator View Post
    Äàëè òîçè ïîäîçðèòåëåí ñêîê â ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà, íå å áëàãîäàðåíèå íà íÿêîé òðèê êàòî âêàðâàíå íà äîïúëíèòåëíè êàäðè êàòî ïðè ôèëìèòå çà ïî-ãëàäêî äâèæåíèå. Íåùî êîåòî òå ñàìèòå ðåêëàìèðàò.
    Out of order execution íà øåéäåðèòå. È ãîëÿì ñêîê â áðîÿ íà òðàíçèñòîðèòå è ÷åñòîòèòå ñïðÿìî 8 íì Ñàìñóíã.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVATARAT View Post
    Äà êóïèø êàðòà ëàìÿ çà 5ê è äà ìèñëèø, ÷å ñúñ åâòèíî çàõðàíâàíå â êîåòî íÿìàø ïîäõîäÿùèòå êàáåëè ùå ÿ çàõðàíèø, ïîêàçâà ìíîãî ñèëåí õàçàðòåí äóõ.

    Åòî è íàãëåäíî
    Íå âèæäàì êàêúâ å ïðîáëåìà ñ 450Âò êîíñóìàöèÿ äà ñå ïîëçâàò 2õ2õ8 ïèíà. Äàæå ìèñëÿ ÷å TechYesCity áåøå ãî òåñòâàë ïî òîÿ íà÷èí îñòàâåí äà âúðòè öÿëà âå÷åð (ïî íåãîâè äóìè) è íÿìàëî äðàìè. ÕÂÓÁ ñà ãî òåñòâàëè íà 850 Âò çàõðàíâàíå, áåç ïðîáëåìè ñúùî.
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    +150 âàòà çà +5% ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò...

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    Quote Originally Posted by radkox View Post
    Áåç ÄËÑÑ áå õîðà. ×èñòî ðàñòåðíà ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñò. È ãëåäàì îñíîâíè ïðè unreal 4 åíäæèí èãðè.
    Ïðîñòî ãðóáà ñèëà õ2 ñïðÿìî 3080.
    Åãàòè.
    Íà 4K äà - 90-100% ðàçëèêà. Çà 1440p ñèãóðíî ùå òðÿáâàò ïðîöåñîðè ñëåä äâå ïîêîëåíèÿ, çà äà ìîãàò òåçè êàðòè äà ïî÷íàò äà ñå ðàçäåëÿò ïîâå÷å åäíà îò äðóãà.  ìîìåíòà RTX 4090 ñè ïðåâàðè âðåìåòî. Êàòî ñëîæèì îêîëî 20% îòãîðå îùå çà ïúëíèÿò AD102 ÷èï, ñòàâà äîñòà ÿñíî, ÷å íÿìà ïðîöåñîðè â ìîìåíòà, êîèòî äà ãè õðàíÿò òåçè ìîäåëè.
    Last edited by LionS7; 11th October 2022 at 19:54.
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    Registered motherfucker rampagePZ's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rampagePZ View Post
    Îò òîçè òåñò ñàìî åé òîâà ìè áåøå ïîëåçíî:



    Ñåãà ñå îãëåæäàì çà åäíà Ñèñîíèê ïëàòèíà îò òàçè ñåðèÿ ïîíåæå î÷åâèäíî ïîäúðæàò ãîëåìèòå ñïàéêîâå îò 4090.
    Last edited by TurboDiv; 23rd October 2022 at 07:44.
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    stalinator 2047 bat_zerga's Avatar
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    Å èìàø ëè ïðîáëåìè ñ òîâà Evga 1200 P2?
    Àêî ñè ïèñàë íÿêúäå çà Äà è ñúì ïðîïóñíàë, wow.
    3090-òå ñúùî èìàò ãîëåìè ìîìåíòíè ïèêîâå, à íà ìîéòà ìàøèíà ñ rog strix @ 500w è 8700ê@200w ïðîáëåìè è ãàñåíå íå ñúì èìàë ñ BeQuet! Dark Power 1200w, à òîâàðà êúì çàõðàíâàíåòî òðÿáâà äà å ñúïîñòàâèì.
    Íå å âàæíî äàëè ñè íîðìàëåí èëè ñè íåíîðìàëåí-âàæíîòî å äà íå òè ïóêà,÷å ñè íåíîðìàëåí!
    Èñòèíñêèÿò ãåðîé å âèíàãè ãîòîâ äà ñå æåðòâà-äîðè êîãàòî çíàå,÷å íèêîé íèêîãà íÿìà äà óçíàå çà ïîäâèãà ìó.
    Ìèëîñò å äóìà,÷èåòî çíà÷åíèå íèêîé íèêîãà íå ìè å ïîêàçâàë.Äóìà,÷èåòî çíà÷åíèå íÿìà êàê è îòêúäå äà çíàì.

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