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    Êîëêî ÌÀÊ àäðåñà èìàò ñìàðòôîíèòå, äà ãè âèäÿ è îãðàíè÷àâàíåòî èì.

    Çäðàâåéòå, èñêàì äà îãðàíè÷à èëè äàì äîñòúï íà äàäåí ìàê àäðåñ íà ñìàðòôîí, áèëî òî àíäðîèä èëè äðóãî êúì ìîå óñòðîéñòâî NVR. Ìîãà äà âèäÿ ìàê àäðåñà íà ñìàðòôîíèòå êîãàòî ñà ñâúðçàíè ñúñ WI-Fi îò íàñòðîéêèòå èì. Íî êîãàòî ïîëó÷àâàò èíòåðíåò ÷ðåç ìîáèëíà ìðåæà, íå ãè âèæäàì. Ïðîáâàõ ñ íÿêàêâè ïðèëîæåíèÿ, íî èëè íå ñà âåðíè èëè ñÿêàø ïîëçâàò ðàçëè÷åí ìàê àäðåñ âñåêè ïúò. Íÿêîé ìîæå ëè äà ðàçÿñíè, äàëè ñìàðòôîíèòå èìàò 2 ìàê àäðåñà, åäèí çà Wi-fi ìîäóëà, äðóã çà 4/5 G ìîäåìà. Áëàãîäàðÿ íà âêþ÷èëèòå ñå.

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    MAC àäðåñúò å âèäèì åäèíñòâåíî â ëîêàëíàòà ìðåæà. Ïðè âðúçêà ïðåç èíòåðíåò íÿìà êàê äà âèæäàø MAC àäðåñà íà äðóãîòî óñòðîéñòâî.
    Òúðñѝ äðóã íà÷èí çà îãðàíè÷àâàíå, íàïðèìåð ÷ðåç ïàðîëà.

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    Repair! lattante's Avatar
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    MAC àäðåñà ñè å åäèí è ñúù, íå ñå ñìåíÿ ïîñòîÿííî. Ïðè ïîëçâàíå íà èíòåðíåò ïðåç ìîáèëíèòå äàííè, âåðîÿòíî èäåíòèôèêàöèÿòà å ïî imei íà êàðòàòà... mac address âèæäàì ñàìî íà lan/wifi
    Êîé ìîäåë å òîâà ó-âî?

    Åäèò: îò äðóã ôîðóì:

    "The answer is yes, and no.

    1X/3G/4G interfaces on cellular devices do have a MAC address, but those MACs are dynamically assigned and change on every reboot of the device... this is because MAC addresses only apply to IEEE 802 technologies, of which cellular networks are not.

    So yes, cellular networks are dynamically assigned a MAC address on a smartphone when that device is powered on or rebooted, however, these dynamically assigned MACs cannot be used in a firewall (it would literally be pointless to do so)..."
    Last edited by lattante; 5th October 2022 at 14:28.
    Right to repair!

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    Íà ìîÿ Xperia 5 II èìà Wi-Fi MAC address è êàòî ãî èçáåðà, èñêà äà èçáåðà áåçæè÷íà ìðåæà. Òàì ïèøå "randomised MAC address", íî ïðîáâàõ äà ñå çàêà÷à/îòêà÷à íÿêîëêî ïúòè è íå ãî ïðîìåíè. Èìà è îòäåëíî 'Device Wi-Fi MAC address, êîéòî å äðóã.  debugging options èìà 'Wi-Fi non-persistent MAC randomisation' îïöèÿ, êîÿòî å èçêëþ÷åíà, íå ñúì ïðîáâàë äà ÿ âêëþ÷à.

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    Íà Àíäîðèä 10 è íàãîðå ïî äåôîëò WiFi å íà randomised MAC address!
    Íî ïîâå÷åòî óñòðîéñòâà èìàò îïöèÿ äà ñå ñåòíå íà õàðäóåðíèÿ , áåç ïðîìÿíà.

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    Îãðàíè÷åíèå ïî ÌÀÑ àäðåñ õè÷ íå å äîáðà èäåÿ, îñîáåíî çà WiFi.
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    Ñúâðåìåííèòå òåëåôîíè èìàò îïöèÿòà çà ïðîèçâîëíî ãåíåðèðàíå íà MAC àäðåñ âñåêè ïúò êàòî çàêà÷à ìðåæàòà çà äà íå ìîæå äà ñå ïðîñëåäÿâà ëåñíî èñòîðèÿòà êúäå è êàêâî ñå áðàóçâà â èíòåðíåò. Íÿêîé ìîäåëè òåëåôîíè èìàò , äðóãè íå. Íå å îïöèÿ äà ãè ñëåäèø ïî MAC àäðåñ.

    åäèò: âèæ äàëè íà íèâî ïîòðåáèòåë îòêúì NVR-úò íå ìîæå äà ãè îãðàíè÷àâàø èëè ïðîñëåäÿâàø êîé êîãà êàêâî ðîâè . Âñåêè èíäèâèä ñúñ íåãîâèòå óñòðîéñòâà ðàáîòè ñ åäèí ïîòðåáèòåë. Èíà÷å ðàçëè÷íè õîðà ñ åäèí ïîòðåáèòåë íå ìîæå äà èì õâàíåø ñïàòèèòå.
    Last edited by barabata; 5th October 2022 at 17:31.
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    Çíà÷è òàçè îïöèÿ íà NVR äà áëîêèðàì èëè ðàçðåøà íà äàäåí ìàê àäðåñ, íÿìà äà ðàáîòè êîðåêòíî.
    Èäåÿòà áåøå îãðàíè÷à ëîãâàíåòî ñúñ ïàðîëàòà íà åäèí þçúð, íà íÿêîëêî óñòðîéñòâà. Âñåêè êîéòî èìà èíñòàëèðàíî ïðèëîæåíèåòî DMSS ñ âêàðàíè äàííè, ìîæå äà âèäè ïàðîëàòà.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak101 View Post
    Îãðàíè÷åíèå ïî ÌÀÑ àäðåñ õè÷ íå å äîáðà èäåÿ, îñîáåíî çà WiFi.
    Ìîæå, ìîæå... Êàòî ñè ïóñíå åäèí õîòñïîò èëè ãî ïóñíå ñàìî ñúñ çàêëþ÷åíèÿ àäðåñ êúì IP äà ñå âðúçâà, ùè ñå ïîëó÷àâàò íåùàòà.
    Âúïðîñà å ïúðâî äà ñå ñåòíå â óñòðîéñòâîòî , ÌÀÑ àäðåñà äà å ñòàòè÷íèÿ /ôèçè÷åñêè è âñè÷êî å íàðåä. À àêî îíÿ ïîñëå ñè ãî ïóñíå ðàíäúì, íÿìà äà ìîæå äà ñå âúðæå..
    Âúïðîñà å îò êúäå èñêà äà îãðàíè÷è/âúðæå ïîòðåáèòåëÿ, ÷å íå ðàçáðàõ. Îò ðóòåðà èëè íà NVR -à, òàì âå÷å íå çíàì êàêâè ñà âúçìîæíîñòèòå..
    Last edited by mitaka-bs; 6th October 2022 at 06:35.

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