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2nd September 2005 05:45 #1
Íîâèíè è ñïåêóëàöèè çà íîâèÿ R520 îò ATI
I'm going to dish out all I know about the speculative reports about the R520 and then R580. The RV530 and RV515 and undebatable, they released the specs
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2501
As for the R520, the latest says that it's a 16 pixel pipe core. As for the vertex engine, we don't know yet but I'd except it to be 8 pipes like the G70. It's based on the 90nm process and supposedly features clockspeeds of up to 700-800MHz. This sets it up to be a little more powerful than the 7800GTX.
Some say "ATI's screwed when Nvidia releases the Ultra." Wrong. You probably forget that ATI has the R580 coming up. What does it have in store, Who f*cking knows. Mind you, TheINQ has this article here declaring the succesful tape-out of the R580 core (yes, that means it's ready!). They mention a "slightly different chip with marchitectural differences." Higher clockspeed? Optimized design? A few more pipes? Who knows!
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25802
As for the overclocking potential, we can't say for sure until we see a sample. For all we know, the R520 might overclock to 900MHz or higher with the right sort of cooling treatement.
That's pretty much what everyone knows unless you have a latest sample or have signed an NDA.
Òà òåé êàòî ãëåäàì íîâîòî ÿäðî íà ÀÒÈ ìîæå äà å ñ 16 êîíâåéðà ïî 90íì òåõíîëîãèà è ùå å êúì 700-800 Ìõç ïî ñêîðîñò êîåòî øå êîìïåíñèðà çà ìàëêèÿ áðîé êîíâåéðè.
À âå÷å Nvidia êàòî ïóñíåëà Ã70 Óëòðà òîãàâà ÀÒÈ ìîæå áè ùå ïóñíàò R580...
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2nd September 2005 08:17 #2
Àáå òå ATI àêî ïðîñïÿò îùå 1-2 ìåñåöà (è íå ïóñíàò îáåùàíàòà êàðòà îò ïðåäè ïîëîâèí ãîäèíà), è ùå ãîíÿò ñëåä òîâà "äèâîòî", çàùîòî NV ùå ñè íàïúëíÿò "ãóøàòà" îò ïðîäàæáè íà 7800, êàòî íÿìàò ðåàëíà êîíêóðåíöèÿ â ìîìåíòà.
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2nd September 2005 09:27 #3
íåùî â òîÿ ðóíä ÀÒÈ äîñòà îöàïàõà ãàùèòå ... íåùî ìàé ñå óçîðèõà äà ïðàâÿò êàðòà ñ 32 , ÷å äîðè è ñ 24 ïàéïà ... ñèãóðíî äîñòà ÷èïîâå ñà äàëè ôèðà ... îò äðóãà ñòðàíà ïúðâèòå îáðàçöè íà êàðòèòå ìîæå è äà ñà ñè ñ 32 ïàéïà äå ( îò êîèòî 8 èëè 16 ëåêî äåôåêòèðàëè ) ... íî èìà âðåìå ...
... íåêà ïúðâî ðúêà äà ïèïíå , çà äà ñìå ñèãóðíè êàêâî , çàùî è êàê ...
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2nd September 2005 09:40 #4Registered User
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520 ÍÈÊÎÃÀ íå å áèë ïëàíèðàí äà èìà 24 èëè 32 ïàéïà
16 íà âèñîêà ÷åñòîòà, ìîæå áè ïîääðúæêà íà GDDR4
580 ùå èìà 3ïúòè ïîâå÷å ÀËÓ-òà îò 520
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2nd September 2005 10:52 #5Å òè óòðåïà ðèáàòà ñ òîÿ ïîñò.
Originally Posted by chavv
Êàòî íå å ïëàíèðàí, çàùî ãî ïðîèçâåæäàò ?
Ñëåä 16-òå îñíîâíè äðóãèòå ñ ïîÿëíèêà ëè ñà ïëàíèðàíè äà ñå äîáàâÿò ?
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ÂÈÍÀÃÈ å áèë ïëàíèðàí ñ 16 ïàéïà, íèêîãà ñ ïîâå÷å.
Originally Posted by vegasis
Àêî íÿêîé, íàïðèìåð àç (èëè æóðíàëèñò îò inquirer
), íàïèøå ÷å 7800 èìà 64 ïàéïà, íî 40 îò òÿõ ñà "ñêðèòè", òîâà ïðîìåíÿ ëè ôàêòà ÷å ïàéïîâåòå ñà òî÷íî 24 è íÿìà ñêðèòè?
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2nd September 2005 10:57 #7ñïîðåä ìåí îùå å ìíîãî ðàíî äà ãîâîðèì çà ìàñîâî íàâëèçàíå íà òàêúâ âèä ïàìåò â ãðàôè÷íèòå óñêîðèòåëè. Èìà îùå êàêâî äà ñå ðàáîòè ïî íåãî.
Originally Posted by chavv
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2nd September 2005 11:33 #8
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 ìîìåíòà ïîëîæåíèåòî îêîëî ATi ñå ïîâòàðÿ ñ âðåìåòî, êîãàòî nVidia çàêúñíÿâàøå ñ ïóñêàíåòî íà NV30, à R300 áåøå ñàì íà âúðõà äîñòà âðåìå (êàòî íàëè÷íîñò, íàé-âå÷å) òî÷íî êàêòî ñåãà å ñ G70.
Toãàâà, nVidia íàïðàâèõà íÿêîëêî ñòðàòåãè÷åñêè ãðåøíè ïîäõîäà è òî íàâåäíúæ, òî÷íî êàêòî ïðàâÿò ñåãà è ATi, à èìåííî - íîâà àðõèòåêòóðà (à íå äåðèâàò, êàêúâòî å R400 ñïðÿìî R300) ñú÷åòàíà çàåäíî ñ íîâà è íåäîêàçàëà ñå îùå 90nm òåõíîëîãèÿ.
Òîâà â ñëó÷åÿ ñ nVidia, äîâåäå íàé-ìàëêîòî äî çàáàâÿíå íà ðàçðàáîòêàòà è ïóñêàíåòî íà íÿêàê ñè íåäîâúðøåí ïðîäóêò. Ïðèëèêèòå ñ âðåìåòî íà NV30 â òîâà îòíîøåíèå, ñà ïî÷òè 1:1. Îñòàâà äà ñå âèäè ñàìî, êàê ùå ñå ïðåäñòàâÿ R520.
Âúïðîñúò å îáà÷å, äàëè ATi ùå èìàò ñèëèòå, êîèòî èìàõà nVidia íàâðåìåòî, âúïðåêè ñïàäàùèòå öåíè íà àêöèèòå èì è íÿêîëêîòî íàñêîðî ïîäàäåíè ñúäåáíè èñêîâå ñ/ó òÿõ çà áîðñîâè ñïåêóëàöèè.
Äà èì å ÷åñòèò 20-òèÿ ãîäèøåí þáèëåé, âúïðåêè òîâà.
Last edited by fellix; 3rd March 2007 at 13:10.
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2nd September 2005 11:47 #9íå öåëÿ äà ñå çàÿæàì íî òè íå ÷åòåø òàêèâà ïîðíîãðàôñêè ñàéòîâå êàòî The Inquierer , à èìàø èíôî îò âúòðå îò ÀÒÈ íàëè ?
Originally Posted by chavv
ñèãóðåí áÿõ ...
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2nd September 2005 12:08 #10Registered User
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íàïðîòèâ è äâåòå òè ïðåäïîëîæåíèÿ ñà ïîãðåøíè
Originally Posted by Shagrath
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Ïðîñòî ÷åòà íå ñàìî èíêóèðåðà... ïðèìåðíî âúâ ôîðóìà íà beyond3d , èìà õîðà èìàùè èíôî "îòâúòðå" ... äà ðå÷åì øåô íà îòäåë ïî ïðîåêòèðàíå íà ÷èïîâå â ÀÒè, ÷îâåêà âîäåù ïèñàíåòî íà ÎïúíÃË äðàéâåðà ... è íÿêîè äðóãè.
Òà òàì åäèí-äâàìà êîèòî èìàò Ð520 òåñòîâè ñåìïëè, ïóñêàò èíôî.
Îò ðîäà:
Âúïðîñ:
"Äîáðå äå, ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å êàðòàòà å ñ 16 ïàéïà íà 800 Ìõö è 256-áèòîâà øèíà , ñêîðîñòòà íà ïàìåòòà ùå îãðàíè÷àâà ëè êàðòàòà èëè ÀÒè ñà ñëîæèëè 512-áèòîâà øèíà?
Îòãîâîð:
Íå
Âúïðîñ:
Íå- ñêîðîñòòà íå îãðàíè÷àâà èëè íå - íå å 512-áèòîâà øèíàòà
Îòãîâîð:
Ïîçíàé"
èçîáùî ôúí
, åäèíñòâåíîòî êîåòî âñè÷êè òâúðäÿò å ÷å å 16 ïàéïà... è òîâà ãî òâúðäÿò ïîíå îò ïîëîâèí ãîäèíà... êàêòî è òâúðäÿò ÷å ïúðâèÿ òåéïàóò íà 520 å îò äåêåìâðè 2004 - è å ðàáîòåë ÷èïà, ìàêàð åäâà òðåòèÿ (îò þëè) õåì äà ðàáîòè, õåì äà èìà äîáúð ðàíäåìàí, õåì íà âèñîêè ÷åñòîòè...
Àïðîïî 580 å èìàë òåéï-àóò ïðåäè 2 ìåñåöà... äåí ñëåä êàòî ïîñòíàõà òîâà è èíêóàéúðà ãî íàïèñà... ïðîñòî Fuad Abazovic ÷åòå è ïîñòâà òàì ...
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7th October 2005 20:26 #11Registered User
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Måãàðåâþ íà ATI X1800
http://www.fcenter.ru/online.shtml?a...e/videos/15040
Êîéòî íå çíàå ðóñêè ùå ãëåäà äèàãðàìèòå
ñúñèïàëè ñà Íâèäèà íà HD ôèëì÷åòàòà - ëåëå êàêî
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7th October 2005 20:45 #12
Originally Posted by svetlyo
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7th October 2005 20:46 #13
àìè êàêâî äà êàæà Ati rules à çà ðóñêèÿ ïðåâåäåòå ñè ãî íà àíãëèèñêè http://www.worldlingo.com/en/website...ranslator.html
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7th October 2005 21:18 #14Registered User
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Ìåíå ëè÷íî ìå øàøêà MPEG-2 ïëåé ïðîöåíòà, åáàñè 100% õàðäóåðíî ãî äåêîäèðàò ìàé ... ùå ñå ãëåäà ìàé Astra HD
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Astra HD îòäàâíà ñå ãëåäà áåç ïðîáëåì ñ 20-30% ïðîöåñîðíî íàòîâàðâàíå äîðè è ñ êàðòà íà nVidia (6800GT, Prescott 3GHz). ATI-òàòà ïðàâÿò è iDCT, òàêà ÷å íàòîâàðâàíåòî òàì å îùå ïî-ìàëêî.
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Çàâèñè îò GT-òî, àêî å NV40 ùå å ñàìî 20-30% íàòîâàðâàíåòî, äðóã ïúò. Ïðè òÿõ âèäåî ïðîöåñîðà íå ðàáîòè.
Originally Posted by barnie
ÅËÅÊÒÐÎÍ
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ÂÅËÈÊÎ ÒÚÐÍÎÂÎ
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22nd July 2009 20:32 #17
Àáå ãëåäàõ àìà íå ìîæàõ äà íàìåðÿ òåìà "Nvidia & Ati íîâèíè è êëþêè" êàêàòî ïðè ïðîöåñîðèòå ñè èìàìå åäíà òàêàâà òåìà êúäåòî âëèçàì è ãëåäàì íàé íîâèòå ðàçâèòèÿ îò ôèðìèòå. Ïðåäëàãàì äà ñè íàïðàâèì åäíà òåìà è òóêà íà âèäåî êàðòèòå. Ïðèìåðíî ìå èíòåðåñóâà êîãà ùå èçêàðâàò íîâèòå êàðòè îò Nvidia i Ati è íÿìà íèêâà òàêàâà òåìà ïîä ðúêà äà öúêíà è äà ãëåäàì...

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Äîáðà èäåÿ! Àç ñúùî ñúì ÇÀ ñúçäàâàíåòî íà òàêàâà òåìà.
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22nd July 2009 20:36 #19
ÀTi RV8xx (HD5800) - ñëóõîâå, áîáeö è êàôåíöå...
GT300 - ðåâîëþöèÿ àëà G80
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22nd July 2009 20:40 #20
SNOW àéäå íàïðàâè òåìàòà äå, áúäè cool.

Òâà äåò ìè ãî ïîêàçâàø ñà 2 ðàçëè÷íè òåìè è òî ñàìî çà 2 âèäà õàðäóåð. Êàòî èçëåçíàò êàðòèòå ïîñëå îùå 2 òåìè çà äðóãèòå 2 êàðòè ñëåä 3 ìåñåöà...
ps: Äðóãî ñè å äà èìà òåìà ñòèêíàòà çà äâåòå ôèðìè íàé îò ãîðå ñ íîâèíè è êëþêè çà èäèîòè êàòî ìåíå - ìåãà ëåñíî ñòàâà.
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