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    Registered User ivanivanovv's Avatar
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    HTML1.0 ñðåùó HTML4.0

    Íàïðàâèõ ñàéò íà ÍÒÌl1.0 êîéòî ñúäúðæà 4ñíèìêè ìàëêî òåêñò è óåá áðîÿ÷ ïîñòàâåíè â íÿêîëêî Làyer-è.Ñëåä êðàòêà ñïðàâêà îñòàíîâèõ ÷å ïîâå÷åòî ñàéòîâå ñà âHTML4.0 Êàòî èçêëþ÷èì òîâà ÷å ïîääúðæàò java frames ...è êàêâî ëè îùå íå.Íÿêàêâà äðóãà ðàçëèêà
    Ïðèìåðíî html4.0 å ïî îïòèìèçèðàí ïðè çàðåæäàíå îò áðàóçúðè èëè ðîáîòèòå ïî äîáðå ðàáîòÿò ñ òîçè ñòàíäàðò
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    xHTML1 ?
    http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/

    Îò òàì:
    Differences with HTML 4:

    This section is informative.

    Due to the fact that XHTML is an XML application, certain practices that were perfectly legal in SGML-based HTML 4 [HTML4] must be changed.
    4.1. Documents must be well-formed

    Well-formedness is a new concept introduced by [XML]. Essentially this means that all elements must either have closing tags or be written in a special form (as described below), and that all the elements must nest properly.

    Although overlapping is illegal in SGML, it is widely tolerated in existing browsers.

    CORRECT: nested elements.

    <p>here is an emphasized <em>paragraph</em>.</p>

    INCORRECT: overlapping elements

    <p>here is an emphasized <em>paragraph.</p></em>
    4.2. Element and attribute names must be in lower case

    XHTML documents must use lower case for all HTML element and attribute names. This difference is necessary because XML is case-sensitive e.g. <li> and <LI> are different tags.
    4.3. For non-empty elements, end tags are required

    In SGML-based HTML 4 certain elements were permitted to omit the end tag; with the elements that followed implying closure. XML does not allow end tags to be omitted. All elements other than those declared in the DTD as EMPTY must have an end tag. Elements that are declared in the DTD as EMPTY can have an end tag or can use empty element shorthand (see Empty Elements).

    CORRECT: terminated elements

    <p>here is a paragraph.</p><p>here is another paragraph.</p>

    INCORRECT: unterminated elements

    <p>here is a paragraph.<p>here is another paragraph.
    4.4. Attribute values must always be quoted

    All attribute values must be quoted, even those which appear to be numeric.

    CORRECT: quoted attribute values

    <td rowspan="3">

    INCORRECT: unquoted attribute values

    <td rowspan=3>
    4.5. Attribute Minimization

    XML does not support attribute minimization. Attribute-value pairs must be written in full. Attribute names such as compact and checked cannot occur in elements without their value being specified.

    CORRECT: unminimized attributes

    <dl compact="compact">

    INCORRECT: minimized attributes

    <dl compact>
    4.6. Empty Elements

    Empty elements must either have an end tag or the start tag must end with />. For instance, <br/> or <hr></hr>. See HTML Compatibility Guidelines for information on ways to ensure this is backward compatible with HTML 4 user agents.

    CORRECT: terminated empty elements

    <br/><hr/>

    INCORRECT: unterminated empty elements

    <br><hr>
    4.7. White Space handling in attribute values

    When user agents process attributes, they do so according to Section 3.3.3 of [XML]:

    * Strip leading and trailing white space.
    * Map sequences of one or more white space characters (including line breaks) to a single inter-word space.

    4.8. Script and Style elements

    In XHTML, the script and style elements are declared as having #PCDATA content. As a result, < and & will be treated as the start of markup, and entities such as &lt; and &amp; will be recognized as entity references by the XML processor to < and & respectively. Wrapping the content of the script or style element within a CDATA marked section avoids the expansion of these entities.

    <script type="text/javascript">
    <![CDATA[
    ... unescaped script content ...
    ]]>
    </script>

    CDATA sections are recognized by the XML processor and appear as nodes in the Document Object Model, see Section 1.3 of the DOM Level 1 Recommendation [DOM].

    An alternative is to use external script and style documents.
    4.9. SGML exclusions

    SGML gives the writer of a DTD the ability to exclude specific elements from being contained within an element. Such prohibitions (called "exclusions") are not possible in XML.

    For example, the HTML 4 Strict DTD forbids the nesting of an 'a' element within another 'a' element to any descendant depth. It is not possible to spell out such prohibitions in XML. Even though these prohibitions cannot be defined in the DTD, certain elements should not be nested. A summary of such elements and the elements that should not be nested in them is found in the normative Element Prohibitions.
    4.10. The elements with 'id' and 'name' attributes

    HTML 4 defined the name attribute for the elements a, applet, form, frame, iframe, img, and map. HTML 4 also introduced the id attribute. Both of these attributes are designed to be used as fragment identifiers.

    In XML, fragment identifiers are of type ID, and there can only be a single attribute of type ID per element. Therefore, in XHTML 1.0 the id attribute is defined to be of type ID. In order to ensure that XHTML 1.0 documents are well-structured XML documents, XHTML 1.0 documents MUST use the id attribute when defining fragment identifiers on the elements listed above. See the HTML Compatibility Guidelines for information on ensuring such anchors are backward compatible when serving XHTML documents as media type text/html.

    Note that in XHTML 1.0, the name attribute of these elements is formally deprecated, and will be removed in a subsequent version of XHTML.
    4.11. Attributes with pre-defined value sets

    HTML 4 and XHTML both have some attributes that have pre-defined and limited sets of values (e.g. the type attribute of the input element). In SGML and XML, these are called enumerated attributes. Under HTML 4, the interpretation of these values was case-insensitive, so a value of TEXT was equivalent to a value of text. Under XML, the interpretation of these values is case-sensitive, and in XHTML 1 all of these values are defined in lower-case.
    4.12. Entity references as hex values

    SGML and XML both permit references to characters by using hexadecimal values. In SGML these references could be made using either &#Xnn; or &#xnn;. In XML documents, you must use the lower-case version (i.e. &#xnn

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    ???

    ×åòåø ëè ñúäúðæàíèåòî èëè ïðîñòî 3,250... êîìåíòñ åè àç ñúì ãóðó.Íà ëèíêà êîéòî ñè ïîñî÷èë (à âúîáùå è íà öåëèÿ ñàéò)èìà îïèñàíèå êàê òî÷íî äà íàïðàâÿ äàä ñòðàíèöà ïî äàä ñòàíäàðò.Òîâà ñòàâà àâòîìàòè÷íî îò âñÿêî ïðîôåñîíàëíî ïðèëîæåíèå çà óåá äèçàéí.Èíòåðåñóâà ìå îïòèìèçàöèÿ ïðè çàðåæäàíå ãëàâíî îò IE èëè GooogleBot èëè spiderrobots .... äàëè ÷åòàò ïî äîáðå 4.0ñòàäàðò,è ñúîòâåòíî ñúäúðæàíèåòî ìó.Ïðèìåðî " The web page load time is 20 seconds." è òîâà å ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å å html1.Äàëè ùå ñòàíå ïî áúðçî àêî èçïîëçâàì html4.0. À çà (x)html íå ìè òðÿáâà èíôî xml+html=xhtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanivanovv
    ...Íÿêàêâà äðóãà ðàçëèêà...
    Ïîñî÷âàì òè ðàçëèêèòå, êàêòî è ñúì öèòèðàë Differences ( xhtml1 ) with HTML 4:
    Êàêâî èìàø ïðåäâèä ïîä html1 ?
    xhtml1 ?
    html4 å îò 97ìà,
    http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/

    Ñòðàíèöàòà íå ñå çàðåæäà ïî áúðçî, çàðåæäà ñå ïî áúðçî àêî ïîëçâàø êîðåêòíî CSS è ñòðóêòóðèðàíåòî êàòî öÿëî, êàòî íå ïîëçâàø íåíóæíè òàáëèöè, blank.gif-÷åòà è ò.í.

    Íå çíàì îò êúäå òè õðóìíà, ÷å åäíàêâî êîëè÷åñòâî êîä è ãðàôèêà ùå ñå çàðåæäà çà ðàçëè÷íî âðåìå?

    Ñòðàíèöàòà ùå ñå èíäåêñèðà ïî-äîáðå àêî å ïèñàíà ïî íÿêîé óåá ñòàíäàðò, èìà êîðåêòíè titles, descriptions è alt-îâå.
    Äî êîëêî ïî-äîáðå ùå ñå èíäåêñèðà ñè çàâèñè ñàìî îò òåá, íå îò ñîôòóåðà, ñ êîéòî ïðàâèø WYSIWYG...

    Çàäàé ñè âúïðîñà ïî-ÿñíî àêî èñêàø ïî-ÿñåí îòãîâîð.

    edit
    åé, XaMaB, àç ñúì ãóðó
    Òè ãóðó ëè ñè ?
    Last edited by Pa3KaTaH; 3rd November 2005 at 18:46.

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    Âåãàí íà ìåñíà äèåòà XaMaB's Avatar
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    ß îáÿñíè íà âñè÷êè ëåéìúðè âúâ ôîðóìà êàê íàïðàâè ñàéò íà õòìë1.0
    Ïîñëåäíà ðåäàêöèÿ: èçâúðøåíà îò XaMaB; íà äíåøíà äàòà. 0.42 ñåêóíäè ñëåä ïóñêàíå íà ïîñòà

    In God we Trust (all others must submit a X.509 certificate). Àêî ñïîðèø ñ èäèîò, âåðîÿòíî è òîé ïðàâè ñúùîòî èëè ñè ïîïàäíàë íà ïàðòèåí (íåïúëåí) ÷ëåí

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    Îñâåí òâà äîêàòî ñå çàðåäè ñòðàíèöàòà, áðàóçúðà èìà âðåìå äà ÿ ðåíäíå 100 ïúòè. Ñàìî ôëàøêèòå îìàçâàò ðàáîòàòà ÷àò-ïàò.
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    Ïðàêòè÷åñêè ðàçëèêèòå ì/ó HTML 4 è XHTML 1 íàèñòèíà èìà, âúïðåêè ÷å íà ïðúâ ïîãëåä ñà ïî÷òè åäíî è ñúùî íå å áàø òàêà, êàêòî ïî ãîðå ðàçêàòàí ãðèæëèâî òè å êîïè ïàñòåíàë, òî òàì ñè ïèøå äå íÿìà äà çàäàëáàâàì.
    Ãëåé ñà, òîâà êàê ùå òè ñå çàðåæäà åäíà ñòðàíèöà íå çàâèñè òî÷íî äàëè ðàáîòèø ïî íÿêîé ñòàíäàðò. Ïî ñêîðî îò íà÷èíà ïî êîéòî ðàáîòè ñàìèÿ áðàóçúð, à âåðâàé ìè òàì ñè å åáàëî ìàìàòà. Òîâà êîåòî ùå òè äàì êàòî îòïðàâíà òî÷êà å (âñúùíîñò êîåòî ïðàâÿò "ïðîôåñèîíàëíèòå ïðîäóêòè", à èìåííî ôèêñèðàíè ðàçìåðè, ðåëàòèâíèòå ñå âîäÿò êàòî ïî òåæêè, îñâåí òîâà ò.íàð. "÷óïåíå" ñúùî å òåæêî, òèïè÷åí ïðèìåð å blank.gif-a, êàêòî è êàðòèíêè ñ ïî ãîëÿì ð-ð îò ñàìàòà êëåòêà íà òàáëèöàòà íàïðèìåð è.òí). layer-èòå (ò.íàð. div-ve) ñà ÿêè, ïðîñòî íàïîñëåäúê èì ñå îáðúùà âíèìàíèå äîñòà è áðàóçúðèòå ñå ñïðàâÿò âñå ïî äîáðå ñ òÿõ (çà ñêîðîñò ãîâîðèì) , íî ïúê âå÷å îò òóê èäâà è íóæäàòà äà ñå ñúîáðàçÿâàø ñ ò.íàð. ñòàíäàðòè (çà êîéòî âñè÷êè ãîâîðÿò, îáà÷å â áã ñà ìíîãî ìàëêî ÷èòàâèòå ñàéòîâå ñúîáðàçåíè ñúñ "ñòàíäàðòèòå").
    À ïúê òîâà äàëè ùå òè ñå èíäåêñèðà íÿêîÿ ñòðàíèöà äîáðå çàâèñè îò òîâà äàëè ñè ÿ íàïèñàë òàê ÷å òúðñà÷êàòà äà ÿ èíäåêñèðà äîáðå, äåìåê íÿìà 100% òóêà . Àêî ùð ãîíèø ðåéòèíã íàáëåãíè ïîâå÷å íà èíôîò â meta òàãîâåòå, è íà òâà äà ñè ëèíêíàò êúì ïîâå÷å ñàéòîâå. Ñÿ äî êîëêîòî çíàì GooGle òè ïðàâè FTI íà contenta, êàòî ñòðàíèöèòå ñå ëèñòâàò ïî ðåéòèíã, è ïîñëå ïî ñúâïàäåíèå íà çàÿâêàòà, íÿêâà ëåêöèÿ ãëåäàõ èç òîðåíòèòå ÿ èìà àêî òè å èíòåðåñíî ñè ÿ íàìåðè

    ---åäèò -----
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    Ôëàøêèòå íå îáìàçâàò íèùî, îìàçâàò ãè õîðàòà êîéòî îìàçâàò ôëàøêèòå.
    Æàëêî ÷å çàðàäìè ëàìåðèÿòà ùå óìðå ôëàøà (((
    À êàòî äîéäå ïðåõâàëåíîòî ÑÂà íå ìè ñå ìèñëè òîãàâà êîëêî îìàçàíà ùå ñòàíå ðàáîòàòà, êàêâî ìå åáå äàëè íÿêîé íààêàí ñúð÷ åíäæèí ìå ìîæåë äà îòâàðÿ ôëàøîâå ÷å äà ãåïíå òåêñòà îòâúòðå, ìè ÷åñíî äà âè êàæà è àç íå áèõ ñå ñïðàâèë, ìà òå çà òâà õîðàòà ñà èçìèñëèëè meta-i â object òàã-à ôå áåëêèì ñà ñïðàâè òúïîòî æèâîòíî è âè ÿ èíäåêñèðà "ôëàøêàòà". Äà íå ãîâîðèì ïúê íÿêúâ ñêàïàí áîéã747 â ñâã ïúê áèë òîé è ãçèïíàò å 20ê ?! âòô!!!
    Ïðîñòî äî 2-3 ãîäèíè õîðà êàòî íàñ ùå ñå ïúíàò êàòî ìàãàðåòà íà ëåä äà ïèøàò òóðáî ÿêè óåáñòàíäàðòèçèðàíè ÑÂã èíòåðàêòèâíè òóðáî îïëåòåíè ñàéò÷åòà íà íîòåïàä áððð.
    cheers *.*
    Last edited by zimbabve; 8th November 2005 at 03:20.
    hurt. the necessary feeling.

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    uw_cse05_google_250k.asf

    zimbabve,
    íå å áàø òàêà, êàêòî ïî ãîðå ðàçêàòàí ãðèæëèâî òè å êîïè ïàñòåíàë
    Êîå íå å áàø òàêà íå ðàçáðàõ ?
    È íå ÷å íåùî, íî ÿ ìè ïðî÷åòè ïîñòà íàä òâîÿ, íå âèæäàì ñìèñúë äà ñå ïîâòàðÿò íåùàòà

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