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12th February 2007 12:25 #1Registered User
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12th February 2007 12:55 #2
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K8L will not wipe the floor with Core2, it will only catch up and be on par. One will be only a little faster than the other, clock for clock. K8L will be a FPU monster and will outperform Core2 in FP related tasks. But it will loose in AL. Both will have roughly same SSE performance, while there is no SSSE3/SSE4 supported software.
The problem with Barcelona, when it arrives, is that it will be clocked low, 2.1GHz-2.5Ghz and will have to compete against higher clocked Clovertown(3GHz parts are ready, waiting for launch). Server software mostly depends on ALU performance, where Core2 dominates. So, don't expect miracles from Barcelona. Barcelona will have the advantage of its point-to-point buses and its performance will scale better in DP/MP environment. The other advantage of Barcelona is its better power management and better power efficiency. This is very important for servers.
But soon after Barcelona, if not at same time, will arrive Penryn and the Caneland platform with a quad-FSB chipset with 64MB snoop filter. It will avoid Barcelona's power efficiency(performance/watt) advantages and it will clearly outperform it in 1P/2P and 4P environment.
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12th February 2007 13:10 #3
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12th February 2007 13:16 #4
@fellix I understand(90%) bulgarian, but I don't know good enough(grammar, words found, etc.) to be able to write. , . .
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The mainboard(s) price is only a small % of total price of an server($200 vs $15000). There are much more important factors than a small difference in price:
- stability and realibility
- performance
- energy efficiencyLast edited by gOJDO; 12th February 2007 at 13:28.
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12th February 2007 14:59 #6Registered User
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http://www.google.com/enterprise/mini/index.html
price is critical
http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20060427PR213.htmlLast edited by svetlyo; 12th February 2007 at 15:12.
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12th February 2007 15:28 #7
I don't know what do you mean but:
1) The price list of AMD MP Opteron CPUs for 1000-unit tray quantities:
AMD Opteron 8220 SE $1,514
AMD Opteron 8220 $1,514
AMD Opteron 8218 $1,165
AMD Opteron 8216 $873
AMD Opteron 8214 $698
AMD Opteron 8212 $523
AMD Opteron 8218 HE $1,340
AMD Opteron 8216 HE $1,019
AMD Opteron 8214 HE $786
AMD Opteron 8212 HE $698
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Corporate/V...04_609,00.html
2) Some prices of Registered DDR2-667, according to NewEgg:
Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC Registered Server Memory Model KVR667D2S4P5/1G - Retail $310,49
WINTEC 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC Registered Server Memory Model 39947341B - Retail $289,99
CORSAIR 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC Registered Server Memory Model CM73DD1024R-667 - Retail $154,99
To the math add the mainboard, storage, network equipment, etc.
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12th February 2007 16:19 #8Registered User
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this is a "supercomputer" opterons
8xxx = 8xHT links to build supercluster
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4100/
1999$ sunos-box with option to Quad upgrade
http://www.buildtoorderservers.com/P...?idCategory=35
entry level, details:
http://www.buildtoorderservers.com/P...&idproduct=703
mainboard - WITH 5 PCI-X slots, Intel eqivalent - NO
intel system with P4 Xeon-single core
http://www.buildtoorderservers.com/P...ct=735#details
wait for Xeon lga 755 - hahahahaLast edited by svetlyo; 12th February 2007 at 16:34.
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12th February 2007 19:21 #9
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12th February 2007 19:33 #10
English is much better instead of macedonian
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28th February 2007 16:25 #14Registered User
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Barcelona (K8L-K10) ?
http://www.boincstats.com/stats/host...sah&st=0&or=10
-70 992, 50%Code:1 AMD Athlon(tm)/Opteron(tm) CPU-model unknown 2 278,442.67 2,857.89 139,221.34 1,428.95 2 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5350 @ 2.66GHz 2 68,561.65 2,256.93 34,280.82 1,128.46
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