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18th February 2010 16:43 #1Çà ñúæàëåíèå íÿìà äà ñå ïîÿâè íà ïàçàðà. Ùå áúäå çàìåíåí ñ äðóã ïî-åâòèí âàðèàíò. Ùå èìà íÿêàêâà îãðàíè÷åíà ñåðèÿ ñàìî... Åäèí âèä êàòî 5970 íà ÀÒÈ â ìîìåíòà... Ñèëíî ëèìèòèðàíà çà èìèäæ....With all good news must come some bad. We have been testing this drive for a few weeks now and were going to do some more on it, but we have just recently heard that the Vertex 2 Pro is likely never going to make it to the market place. It seems that the Sandforce SF-1500 controller comes at just too high of a price premium for this consumer SSD. We have been told that the SF-1500 is about $100 more than the SF-1200, so the Vertex 2 Pro would cost $100 more than the Vertex 2 right from the start. We were told by OCZ that the Vertex 2 Pro 100GB that we tested here today would cost north of $600 for the drive. That is a significant amount of money for a 100GB SSD. Then you have to keep in mind that the SF-1200 controller that is being used in the Vertex 2 has some new firmware revisions in the works that are said to improve the performance. As a result the Vertex 2 Pro just didn't fit in any pricing model. It's a real shame this drive will never make it out the door, but this review wasn't a complete waste of time. It turns out that Vertex 2 Limited Edition with the SF-1500 will still be coming out and that drive will basically have the same performance numbers of the Vertex 2 Pro 100GB drive that we tested here today.
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18th February 2010 17:24 #2
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18th February 2010 22:20 #3
Òàêà ñàìî ñ ìàðêè íå ñòàâà. Êàæè è ìîäåëèòå, ùîòî âñè÷êè èçáðîåíè èìàò è äîáðè, è íå ÷àê òîëêîâà.
Åäíà äóìà: Jmicron - ÷óåø ëè ÿ ïîêðàé íÿêîé SSD, áÿãàé äàëå÷å.
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18th February 2010 22:29 #4
Àìè íàïðèìåð X25-V íà Intel è SSDNow-Value íà Kingston? Ìàêàð ÷å ñå ãîâîðè ÷å âòîðîòî âñúùíîñò å rebranded X-25-V, àç íå ñúì ñèãóðåí è íÿìàì ïîçíàíèÿòà çà äà ãî ïîòâúðäÿ.Çíàì, ÷å íå ñà 64GB êàòî G.Skill Falcon íî âñå ïàê èìà ãîëÿìà ðàçëèêà â öåíàòà...À íå èçêëþ÷âàì è Falcon...
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18th February 2010 23:29 #5
X25-V å äîáúð äèñê êàòî çà íà÷àëî çà öåíàòà ñè. Ïîâå÷åòî, êîèòî ãî êóïóâàò âçåìàò 2 çà RAID 0 êàòî àëòåðíàòèâà íà X25-M ïðèìåðíî.
Êèíãñòúíà, àêî ñúì òè ðàçáðàë ìîäåëà (SSDNow V) - ÍÅ.
X25-V ñúñ ñèãóðíîñò, àêî íå òè ñå äàâàò ïîâå÷å ïàðè. Ñ åäèí Win 7 ùå ñúáåðå 3-4-5 èãðè.Last edited by WoW; 18th February 2010 at 23:40.
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19th February 2010 00:11 #6
Òîåñò êîëåáàíèå ìåæäó íåãî è G Skill Falcon 64 GB.Ìàêàð äà å òðóäíî äà ñðàâíÿâàø ðàçëè÷íè êëàñîâå è ãèãàáàéòè àç ïðîñòî èñêàì äà ñè èçÿñíÿ êîå ìè òðÿáâà íà ìåí, áèõ êóïèë âñåêè åäèí, ñàìî äà ðàçáåðà êàêâà ðàçëèêà ùå óñåòÿ.
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19th February 2010 01:30 #7
Falcon å ïî-äîáðèÿ ïî ïîêàçàòåëè, íî íàé-âåðîÿòíî íÿìà äà óñåòèø çíà÷èìà ðàçëèêà ì/ó äâàòà.
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19th February 2010 04:15 #8
Àêî ùå ïúõàø èãðè â äèñêà ïî äîáðå ñè âçåìè îòäåëåí ìàëúê çà ÎÑ è îòäåëåí çà èãðèòå. íàïðèìåð Intel-25v ÎÑ è êàêúâòî è äà å çà èãðèòå, ïî ðàçìåð ñè ãî èçáèðàø.
i9-13900K / Kraken X73 / MSI Z790 Carbon WIFI / 32GB Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-7600 CL36 / MSI RTX 4090 Gaming Trio / MSI MEG Ai1300P / WD Black SN850X 4TB + ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB / FD Meshify 2 XL / Logitech G915 Wireless + Pro X Superlight / LG 27GL850-B
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21st February 2010 00:31 #9
40GB áè òðÿáâàëî äà å ïðåäîñòàòú÷íî, ïðåäâèä êàê ñåãà íà Ö: èìàì çàåòè 23GB ñ ìîÿ windows7.Ãðåøíè ïàðè íå ìè ñå äàâàò çà ïî-ãîëåìè SSD, ïðåäèâä êàê íÿìà äà ñå ïîëçâàò.À 40GB Value SSDNOW Kingston å ÷èñò èíòåëñêè äèñê, íàëè â overclocler.ru ãî ïîêàçàõà, ùå áúðçàì äà ñè íàìåðÿ òàêàâà áðîéêà.BoEing, òè òàì ëè áåøå, ïðè òèÿ ìîì÷åòà ñ èç÷åçíàëèòå äÿëîâå ñ î÷èòå ñè ëè âèäÿ ãðåøêàòà?
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21st February 2010 10:57 #10
Íå ñúì ãî êàçàë çà äà çàñåãíà íÿêîãî, êàçâàì êàêúâ å ñïîðåä ìåí ïðîáëåìà, äà íå ãîâîðèì, ÷å âñåêè èíñòàëèðà äðàéâåðè, êàêâèòî ìó ïàäíàò áåç äà å íàÿñíî êàêâî ïðàâÿò, çà ïðèìåð ñà ïîñëåäíèòå íà èíòåë èìà 5 áåòè ãîâîðÿ çà 9.5... ðàïèä ñòîðèäæ, êîèòî êà÷âàò ìíîãî DPC ëàòåíòíîñòèòå, àìà ïî-ëåñíî äúíàòà íà ÃÁ äà ñà âèíîâíè, ïîòðåáèòåëèòå íèêîãà...
If life gives you a computer...OVERCLOCK IT!
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21st February 2010 12:55 #11
Òåíêñ çà ïîÿñíåíèåòî íî ìàëêî ìå îáúðêà ñ äðàéâúðèòå...Àç ñúì ñè ñ P35 chipset, è ÷åòîõ ïî ôîðóìèòå ÷å ïúðâî ñå óïäåéòâà ïîñëåäíèÿ firmware è ïîñëå ñå èíñòàëèðà áåçïðîáëåíî SSD, Windows 7 ñàì êà÷âàë äðàéâúðèòå è âñè÷êè íàñòðîéêè, èçêëþ÷âàë äåôðàãìåíòèðàíåòî...À 40GB Kingston ñè å Èíòåëñêî ïîíå òúé êàçâàò îò overclockers.ru...Àêî íå èçëèçàì íàâúí îò òåìàòà êàêâî òî÷íî òðÿáâà äà íàïðàâÿ êàòî ñè ãî çåìà?
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22nd February 2010 00:45 #12
Íàðàòêî:
Áóòâàø îò Win 7 DVD-òî;
ñúçäàâàø äÿëà(ñúçäàâà ñè ãè 2 - 100ÌÂ çà áóóò ôàéëîâå è äðóãèÿ çà îñòàíàëîòî, ïî æåëàíèå òðèåø ãîëåìèÿ è ðàçøèðÿâàø 100ÌÂ-îâèÿ äî öåëèÿ îáåì íà äèñêà);
èíñòàëèðàø è íå áàðàø ICH9 äðàéâúðèòå, îñòàâÿø MS-ñêèòå, àêî èñêàø äà èìàø TRIM;
íå å çàäúëæèòåëíî Win 7 äà òè ðàçïîçíàå SSD êàòî òàêúâ, ïðîâåðÿâàø/èçêëþ÷âàø àâòîäåôðàãìåíòàöèÿòà, ñïèðàø ñóïåðôåò÷ , ïðåôåò÷ è õèáåðíàöèÿòà, àêî èñêàø ñïèðàø èíäåêñèðàíåòî, ïåéäæ ôàéëà è ñèñòúì ðåñòîð(ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî, îñîáåíî ñ ðàçìåðà íà òâîÿ SSD, èëè ðú÷íî ñè ïðàâè ðåñòîð ïîéíòñ).
Òîâà å.
Çà ïî-ëåñíî ìîæåø äà ïîëçâàø SSD Tweak Utility. Åòî êàêâî å áàðàíî ïðè ìåí:
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21st February 2010 21:28 #13
Ïðè ìåí çà ñåãà íå çàáåëÿçâàì íÿêàêâè ïðîáëåìè ñ SSD-òî, à ñúùî ñúì ñ Gigabyte äúíî. Íàäÿâàì ñå äà íÿìà òàêàâà çàêîíîìåðíîñò.
24/7 Asus RIVE|Xeon E5-1660v2 @4.7GHz|EK Supreme HF|4x8GB G.Skill TridentX @2440MHz 10-12-12-30 1T|Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming|Samsung 840Pro 256GB +2x2TB WD Black|Logitech G15|Toughpower 1000W|Phanteks Enthoo Primo|2xThermoChill PA140.3+XSPC Dual Bay+2xLaing DDC 1Tplus|Phobya Touch 6|24" 2433BW
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22nd February 2010 10:29 #14Registered User
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òîâà îçíà÷àâà ëè, ÷å 40GB Value SSDNOW Kingston ùå èìà TRIM?èíñòàëèðàø è íå áàðàø ICH9 äðàéâúðèòå, îñòàâÿø MS-ñêèòå, àêî èñêàø äà èìàø TRIM;
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22nd February 2010 17:31 #15
Ñïèðà ñå çà äà íå ñå ïèøå èçëèøíî ïî äèñêà, êàêòî è äðóãèòå íàñòðîéêè. È íàäàëè ùå óñåòèø ðàçëèêà. Àêî Win7 íÿìàøå áúã ñúñ çàñè÷àíåòî íà SSD ùåøå äà ãî èçêëø÷è ñàì ïðè èíñòàëàöèÿòà, è íå ñàìî íåãî:
"Ãëóïàâèòå" MS :
When a solid state drive is present, Windows 7 will disable disk defragmentation, Superfetch, ReadyBoost, as well as boot and application launch prefetching. These technologies were all designed to improve performance on traditional HDDs, where random read performance could easily be a major bottleneck
Ïîääúðæà, èìà íîâ TRIM ôúðìóåúð îò ÿíóàðè.Last edited by WoW; 22nd February 2010 at 17:37.
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22nd February 2010 12:56 #16Banned
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ñïîðåä ìåí äà ñïèðàø SuperFetch äîðè è äà ñè ñ SSD ñè å ïúëíà ãëóïîñò. Ðàì ïàìåòòà å äîñòà ïî-áúðçà îò SSD-to.ñïèðàø ñóïåðôåò÷
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22nd February 2010 19:39 #17Banned
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Superfetch ïðàâè òî÷íî òîâà, íàìàëÿâà ïèñàíåòî ïî äèñêà. Ñ äðóãè äóìè òîâà å åäèí ãîëÿì ðàì êåø, êúäåòî ñå áóôåðèðàò ÷åñòî èçïîëçâàíèòå ïðîãðàìè è êîìïîíåíòè îò Windows. Àêî íå ñà áóôåðèðàíè â òîçè êåø òå òðÿáâà äà ñå ÷åòàò îò SSD-òî êîåòî ïðèìåðíî èìà òðàíñôåð îò 270 Mbyte/s, à ñ âêëþ÷åí Superfetch ùå ñå ÷åòàò îò ðàì ïàìåòòà äèðåêòíî, ïðèìåðíî ñúñ ñêîðîñò îò 8000 Mbyte/s ( à íà íîâèòå ñèòåìè è äî 20 000 Mbyte/s).Ñïèðà ñå çà äà íå ñå ïèøå èçëèøíî ïî äèñêà, êàêòî è äðóãèòå íàñòðîéêè.
Òàêà ÷å ìíîãî ïîçäðàâè íà òúïàöèòå îò ìàéêðîñîôò.
Çà äðóãèòå îïöèè ñúì ñúãëàñåí ÷å òðÿáâà äà ñà èçêëþ÷åíè.
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22nd February 2010 20:01 #18EVGA X299 FTW K|i9-7960X@4.7|4x8 Patriot Viper Steel 4000|GTX 1660 Ti|970 EVO 1 TB|Seasonic Focus GX-1000|Xigmatek Elysium|Êèëî è ïîëîâèíà âîäà
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22nd February 2010 20:04 #19
À áå â äîñòà òåìè äåìîíñòðèðàø çàâèäíà êîìïåòåíòíîñò, äàæå è ïîçäðàâè âçå äà ïðàùàø.

Èíòåðåñíî îò êúäå èäâàò òåçè äàííè çà äà ñå áóôåðèðàò â ðàì êåøà?
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22nd February 2010 20:09 #20Banned
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íå çíàì îòêúäå èäâàò, ãëåäàé ñåãà ïðîöåñîðèòå Å6750 å ñ 4 ìá êåø, Å7000 ñ 3 ìá êåø, Å8000 ñ 6 ÌÁ, çàùî òàêà ãî óâåëè÷àâàò òîçè êåø òå îò Èíòåë ÿâíî íå ìîãàò äà ìèñëÿò, ùî íå ñè ÷åòàò áàéò÷åòàòà îò äðóãàòà ïàìåò íàëè è òÿ å áúðçà àìà ìàé êåøà å ïî-áúðç.
È äàííèòå ñå áóôåðèðàò îò SSD-to íî ïî-íàðÿäêî, êàêâî ñåãà äà ñåäíà äà îáÿñíÿâàì çà êàêâî ñëóæè êåø ëè?
È äúðæà ÷å Superfetch íàìàëÿâà íå ñàìî ÷åòåíåòî, íî è ïèñàíåòî ïî SSD-òî.
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22nd February 2010 20:33 #21
Äà, è ïèñàíåòî, êîãàòî íå äîñòèãà ïàìåòòà è ñå íàëàãà ïåéäæèíã, òîé ãî èçáÿãâà â ïîâå÷åòî ñèòóàöèè, íî òîâà å ðÿäúê ñëó÷àé. Ïðåäèìíî îïòèìèçèðà ïîñëåäîâàòåëíèÿ äîñòúï äî ôàéëîâå è äèðåêòîðèéíè ñïèñúöè, íî è òîâà å ñàìî åäíà îò ôóíêöèèòå ìó. Íå íàìèðàì ïðè÷èíà äà ñå ñïèðà âúðõó ÑÑÄ-òà, íî âúïðåêè âñè÷êî ïîäîçèðàì, ÷å Ìàéêðîñîôò ñè èìàò ñâîèòå. Ìîæå áè çàùîòî FileInfo ôèëòúðíèÿò äðàéâåð, ñúðöåòî íà SuperFetch, íå ðàáîòè ñ òÿõ. Ñàìî ïðåäïîëàãàì.
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22nd February 2010 20:47 #22Banned
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åòî ÿ öÿëàòà èì ñòàòèéêà - http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/200...rives-and.aspx
òàì ñè ïèøå ÷å Superfetch ñè ðàáîòè ñúñ SSD, äîðè ãî âêëþ÷âàëè íà íÿêîè ïî-ñòàðè ìîäåëè,
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22nd February 2010 21:02 #23
Òàì ïèøå ïîâå÷å ðàáîòè è íèòî åäíî íå òè äàâà ïðàâî äà íàðè÷àø Ìàéêðîñîôò "ãëóïàöè".
Íàé-äîáðå å äà ñå òåñòâà ñúñ ñúîòâåòíîòî SSD êàê ðàáîòè ïî-äîáðå - ñúñ SuperFetch èëè áåç.
Áëàãîäàðÿ çà ñòàòèÿòà, btw
Last edited by Bombera; 22nd February 2010 at 21:14.
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