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    Ñòðóâà ëè ñè Radeon x1900xtx

    Ñèãóðíî èìà âå÷å ïîäîáíè òåìè, àç íåùî íå óñïÿâàì äà íàìåðÿ íóæíàòà ìè èíôîðìàöèÿ çà èçáîð íà âèäåî êàðòà.
    Ðåøèë ñúì äà ïðúñíà ïàðè è èñêàì äà çíàì äàëè X1900XTX ñè ñòðóâà èëè òåçè 100$ ðàçëèêà îò x1900xt. Ñ êàêâî å ïî äîáðà xtx? Çà ïàðèòå íà 1900xt ìîæå äà ñå âçåìå 7800GTX. nVidia-òà å ñ ïî ìàëêî ïàìåò òîâà äàëè íàìàëÿâà ñúùåñòâåíî ïðîèçâîäèòåëíîñòòà ñïðÿìî äðóãèòå äâå êàðòè íà Ati, è àêî íå êîå òîãàâà ÿ ïðàâè ðàâíîñòîéíà èëè ïî äîáðà?
    Ìåðñè ïðåäâàðèòåëíî.

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    Íÿìà îñîáåí ñìèñúë â 100-òå $ äàäåíè çà 1900XTX, çàùîòî äâåòå êàðòè (ÕÒÕ è ÕÒ) ñà èäåíòè÷íè, ïðîñòî âòîðàòà å ñ ÁÈÎÑ ñúñ çàíèæåíè ÷åñòîòè. Âåäíàãà ñëåä êàòî ñè âçåìåø X1900XT ìîæåø äà ñè ÿ êëîêíåø ñ êîÿòî è äà å ïðîãðàìà äî ÕÒÕ, èëè íàïðàâî äà âçåìåø ÕÒÕ BIOS è äà ïðåôëàøíåø ñ íåãî...
    Íà ãëàâíàòà ñòðàíèöà èìà ïîëåçåí ëèíê, ìîæå äà ãî ïðî÷åòåø: http://hardwarebg.com/reviews.php?read=59

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    Èç÷àêàé G71

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gam3Ra
    Èç÷àêàé G71
    È ùî? Òè òîâà êàòî ãî êàçâàø èìàø íÿêàêâà âúòðåøíà èíôîðìàöèÿ èëè íåùî äðóãî?

    G71, 7900 GTX is eight to ten per cent faster Than 7800 GTX 512

    ASIAN partners are disappointed with the upcoming Geforce 7900 GTX cards. Most of the companies already have the samples and tested them but they are not happy with the performance. First tests indicate that in the best case scenario, Geforce 7900 GTX cards are eight to ten per cent faster than the last and rarely available Geforce 7800 GTX 512 card.

    This means that 7900 GTX might get close to ATI's X1900 XTX card but it will lose in many of the benchmarks. We suspect that at 4X FSAA and eight or sixteen times Anisotropic filtering ATI X1900 XTX can still keep its crown, but we still have to see this. Asian partners placed limited quantities order for G71, 7900 GTX chips and they ordered less chips then they usually do, according to sources.

    When Nvidia launched its flagship 7800 GTX 512 a true performance leader, the partners ordered thousands of chips and got a handful of them, while now even you can get thousands of chips, no one wants to risk buying a few thousands of them. However, we still think that Geforce 7900 GTX if priced aggressively have a chance to be a good seller as people like the Clan of McNvidia.

    Sample 7900 GTX at 650MHz core should be distributed now as the launch day the 9th of March is getting closer. We know that Nvidia won't have any shortages of those chips as, for goodness sake, this chip will find its place in Sony Playstation 3 but at modest clocks. Sony literally wants millions of chips.


    [QUOTE]Nvidia Geforce 7900 cards are very overclockable

    90 nanometre baby rocks up to 710MHz


    WE learned that many manufacturers will overclock the stock 650MHz Geforce 7900 GTX cards. The cards are at the various labs and Nvidia partners are working on their final clocks.

    Everyone wants to clock those cards to 700MHz and some of the partners might actually be able to do it, ship it and to support the warranty at such a high clock speed.

    The magical overclocking number is 710MHz and the guys who tested it could not go more than that. The cards are throttling at 720MHz and that's as high as you will reach with air.

    This is roughly as much as you can overclock ATI X1900 XTX cards with an air cooler, but as you know those cards can reach a gigahertz if you cool them with dry ice or some other crazy technique. 700MHz or just a little bit higher could be a limitation of the 90 nanometre cards.

    We reckon that 700MHz Geforce 7900 GTX can give X1900 XTX a run for its money, but it is only a week before Nvidia officially announces it.[/QUOTE]

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    Äà ,âÿðíî ,èç÷àêàé äî 9-òè. Ìîæå Nvidia âñå ïàê äà ïóñíàò ñâÿñòíè êàðòè (7900).. Èíà÷å 1900XTX å ñ îêîëî 4% ïî-áúðçà îò XT è íå ñè çàñëóæàâà îñîáåíî äîïëàùàíåòî..

    bobytt, òè íå ñïèø ëè íîùíî âðåìå? Ïî ìîè ñìåòêè ñåãà å 4 ñóòðèíòà ïðè òåáå

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    Quote Originally Posted by astrogene
    Äà ,âÿðíî ,èç÷àêàé äî 9-òè. Ìîæå Nvidia âñå ïàê äà ïóñíàò ñâÿñòíè êàðòè ...
    Èñêàø äà êàæåø , ÷å äîñåãà ñàìî áîêëóöè ïóñêàò ëè ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsvetanVR
    Èñêàø äà êàæåø , ÷å äîñåãà ñàìî áîêëóöè ïóñêàò ëè ?
    Íå. Èñêàì äà êàæà ,÷å 7900 ñå î÷åðòàâà äà áúäàò ðàçî÷àðîâàíèå. Ïîíå îò äîñåãàøíàòà èíôîðìàöèÿ çà òÿõ ,èçãëåæäà ÷å ùå êîíêóðèðàò 1900xt/x ïî öåíà ,íî íå è ïî ñêîðîñò.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astrogene
    Äà ,âÿðíî ,èç÷àêàé äî 9-òè. Ìîæå Nvidia âñå ïàê äà ïóñíàò ñâÿñòíè êàðòè (7900).. Èíà÷å 1900XTX å ñ îêîëî 4% ïî-áúðçà îò XT è íå ñè çàñëóæàâà îñîáåíî äîïëàùàíåòî..

    bobytt, òè íå ñïèø ëè íîùíî âðåìå? Ïî ìîè ñìåòêè ñåãà å 4 ñóòðèíòà ïðè òåáå
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    Àìè àç ïî-ðàíî îò 5-6÷. ñóòðèíòà ðÿäêî ñè ëÿãàì

    Èíà÷å ïî òåìàòà , G71 ïî òîâà êîåòî ñå ãîâîðè ÍßÌÀ äà å íåùî óíèêàëíî , ïðîñòî NV ÿâíî ñà ñå ñïðÿëè íà 24 ïàéïà çà G7* ïîêîëåíèåòî ñêîðîñòèòå ñà ñàìî çàâèøåíè. Àç èìàõ 7800GTX 512 ñåãà ñúì ñúñ X1900XTX ÀÒÈòî âîäè , ñàìî êëîêà ìó å ìàëêî ïî-ïðîáëåìåí íà íåãî àìà ñå ÿäâà.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malware
    Íÿìà îñîáåí ñìèñúë â 100-òå $ äàäåíè çà 1900XTX, çàùîòî äâåòå êàðòè (ÕÒÕ è ÕÒ) ñà èäåíòè÷íè, ïðîñòî âòîðàòà å ñ ÁÈÎÑ ñúñ çàíèæåíè ÷åñòîòè. Âåäíàãà ñëåä êàòî ñè âçåìåø X1900XT ìîæåø äà ñè ÿ êëîêíåø ñ êîÿòî è äà å ïðîãðàìà äî ÕÒÕ, èëè íàïðàâî äà âçåìåø ÕÒÕ BIOS è äà ïðåôëàøíåø ñ íåãî...
    Íà ãëàâíàòà ñòðàíèöà èìà ïîëåçåí ëèíê, ìîæå äà ãî ïðî÷åòåø: http://hardwarebg.com/reviews.php?read=59
    Äîáðå à XTX àêî ñå êëîêíå íÿìà ëè äà ñòàíå äîñòà ïî äîáðå, ñïðÿìî êëîêíàòî XT?

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    Òî÷íî òîâà êàçâàò õîðàòà, ÷å êàðòèòå ñà èäåíòè÷íè. Ïðè òîâà ïîëîæåíèå íå ìîæå äà ñå êàæå êîÿ ùå ñå êëîêíå ïîâå÷å, çàùîòî âñè÷êî ùå îïèðà äî êîíêðåòíà áðîéêà.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overload
    Äîáðå à XTX àêî ñå êëîêíå íÿìà ëè äà ñòàíå äîñòà ïî äîáðå, ñïðÿìî êëîêíàòî XT?
    Íà òîçè âúïðîñ íå ñúì íàìåðèë åäíîñòðàíåí îòãîâîð. Íÿêúäå ñúì ÷åë, ÷å XTX ,êàêòî è ïàìåòèòå çà òÿõ ñà ïîäáèðàíè ÷èïîâå è êàòî öÿëî äîñòèãàò ïî-âèñîêè ÷åñòîòè. Äðóãàäå ïúê êàçâàò ,÷å ðàçëèêà íÿìà.
    Ìàé å ïî-äîáðå äà ïèòàø òîâà â íÿêîé çàïàäåí ôîðóì, êúäåòî ñè èãðàÿò ñ òàêèâà êàðòè..

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    Ïî-ëîãè÷íèÿ èçáîð çà ìåí å 1900ÕÒ, îâúðêëîêíàò äî ÕÒÕ ïðèìåðíî, çàùîòî íÿìà äà èìà ãîëÿì ïðîáëåì ñ îõëàæäàíåòî è øóìà, äîêàòî àêî ðàç÷èòàø äà âçåìåø Õ1900ÕÒÕ è äà êëîêíåø îùå ïî-íàãîðå ùå òðÿáâà äà ïîìèñëèø çà îõëàæäàíåòî è øóìà. Òîâà ùå å ìîæå áè äîêàòî ÕÒ è ÕÒÕ ñà ñàìî ñ ðàçëè÷åí áèîñ. Ïî-êúñíî êàòî ïî÷íàò äà èçïîëçâàò ïî-êóöè ÷èïîâå è ïî-áàâíà ïàìåò çà ÕÒ ùå å äðóãî. Òàêà ìèñëÿ àç.
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    Íå ñè äàâàé ïàðèòå çà ÕÒÕ ïðîñòî íå ñè ñòðóâà 100$ çà íÿêîëêî ìåãàõåðöà îò ãîðå. ÕÒ è ÕÒÕ ñåðèèéòå èìàò 1.1 íñ ïàìåòè è ïîíå åäíî 98% îò ÕÒ âåðñèèéòå ñå ôëàøâàò áåç íèêâè ãðèæè íà ÕÒÕ. Òîçè ôëàø îò äðóãà ñòðàíà íå ïîäîáðÿâà êëîêà àìè ïðîñòî òè ïðåöàêâà ãàðàíöèÿòà (àêî ÿ âúðíåø â ïðåôëàøíàò âèä) è òè ïðåèìåíóâà êàðòàòà îò ÕÒ íà ÕÒÕ è ñúùî òè ïðàâè êåôà äà ñå ïðåñìèâàø íà òåçè êîèòî ñà ñè äàëè ïàðèòå çà èñòèíñêà ÕÒÕ áåç ãîëÿì ñìèñúë (áîáè, ìóöêà , áåç äà ñå çàñÿãàø àêî ñè ñ èñòèíñêî ÕÒÕ). Ïðîñòî Õ1900 å íîâèÿ ëèäåð è àç ñúùî ìíîãî ñúì ñå íàäúðâèë çà åäíà òàêàâà è áèõ ÿ âçåë âåäíàãà àêî òðÿáâàøå äà ðåøà äíåñêà êîÿ âèäåî êàðòà äà êóïÿ. Âñå ïàê Íâèäèÿ èçêàðâàò íîâèòå äóáè÷åòà ñëåä 1 ñåäìèöà òàêà ÷å å íàé ðàçóìíî äà ñå èç÷àêà, ñðàâíè è òîãàâà äà ñå êóïóâà êîëêîòî è äà íå ñà "úïãðåéòíàòè" íîâèòå êàðòè îò Íâèäèÿ.
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