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5th March 2003 15:05 #1
Gigabyte êàðòà ñ Radeon 9800...
FX-à ìàé äîíèêúäå íÿìà äà ñòèãíå ïðè òîâà ïîëîæåíèå...
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Taipei, Taiwan, 05-Mar-2003
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. today announced her MAYA II GV-R9800 series of graphics board, featuring the RADEON™ 9800 visual processing unit (VPU), to its successful retail lineup. Based on the MAYA II series product, the GV-R9800 series delivers breakneck performance to the gaming and enthusiast market.
The GV-R9800 series is available graphics accelerators to fully support the AGP 8X standard. The AGP 8X bus provides the crucial high-bandwidth link between the graphics card and the rest of the PC. It carries a variety of different types of data, including 3D models, textures, shaders, drawing commands, and video streams.
The GV-R9800 series also enable to render up to eight pixels simultaneously with full floating point precision. This is accomplished by eight-parallel-128-bit floating-point-rendering-pipelines, each with its own independent texture unit and pixel shader engine. The texture unit of each rendering pipeline can sample up to 16 textures in a single rendering pass. These textures can be one-, two-, or three-dimensional, with bilinear, tri-linear, or anisotropic filtering applied depending on the desired quality level.
In addition, the GV-R9800 series supports TRUFORM™ 2.0, the latest incarnation of ATI’s innovative higher order surface technology. It is designed to smooth out the curved surfaces of 3D characters, objects, and terrain by increasing the polygon count through a process called “tessellation”. By taking advantage of the massive vertex processing power of the VPU, TRUFORM 2.0 delivers more natural-looking 3D scenes without requiring any changes to existing artwork.
The GV-R9800 series incorporates SMARTSHADER™ 2.0 technology, ATI’s second generation of programmable vertex and pixel shader acceleration. Designed to be much more powerful and flexible than first-generation shader technology, SMARTSHADER 2.0 will enable for the first time the transition of movie-quality effects into real-time games and other interactive applications. As the complete implementation of Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0, the industry standard API for graphics, it will also be fully compatible with current and future revisions of OpenGL®.
The GV-R9800 series advances the state of the art in every aspect of its design. It was created with the goal of not only making today and tomorrow’s games and other 3D applications look better than ever before, but to open up entirely new possibilities for visual entertainment. Gigabyte GV-R9800 series is definitely trustworthy in terms of the most complete range of 3D gaming solutions and unparalleled cost-effective performance.
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5th March 2003 15:25 #2
Èäåàëíî. Ñåãà ñàìî îñòàâà äà äîéäå íà öåíà ïîä 300 çåëåíè è ùå å âðúõ íà ñëàäîëåäà
. Âúïðåêè ÷å íîâîâúâåäåíèÿòà ñïðÿìî 9700 ÏÐÎ íå ñà ðåâîëþöèîííè, à ïî-ñêîðî åâîëþöèîííè, êàðòàòà ñå î÷åðòàâà, ïîíå íà õàðòèÿ, äà å ìíîãî äîáðà.
If you can read this, then you aren't "well" Îverclockåd yet...!!!
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5th March 2003 15:55 #3
ììì àç ëè ñå áúðêàì èëè òîâà áåøå ïðîôåñèîíàëíèÿ ìîäåë íà áàçàòà íà Ð300 ÷èïà ?!?!? ùîòî äîêîëêîòî ñè ñïîìíÿì ñ Ð350 ñà 9900 ........... ?!?!?!
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5th March 2003 16:22 #4Ñ R350 ùå èçëèçàò 9900/9800/9600 íî îùå íå ñå çíàå ìíîãî çà ñïåöèôèêàöèèòå èì, äàæå íèùî îùå íå ñå çíàåOriginally posted by Shagrath
ììì àç ëè ñå áúðêàì èëè òîâà áåøå ïðîôåñèîíàëíèÿ ìîäåë íà áàçàòà íà Ð300 ÷èïà ?!?!? ùîòî äîêîëêîòî ñè ñïîìíÿì ñ Ð350 ñà 9900 ........... ?!?!?!
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If you can read this, then you aren't "well" Îverclockåd yet...!!!
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5th March 2003 17:18 #5
îòïàäíàõà âúïðîñèòåëíèòå îêîëî ñïåôèöèôèêàöèèòå íà áúäåùèòå âèäåîêàðòè íà ATI ñ Radeon 9600 & 9800 Pro ÷èïñåòè. Radeon 9600 pro (RV350) ùå áúäå èçðàáîòåí ïî 0.13 ìèêðîííà òåõíîëîãèÿ, ùå ðàçïîëàãà ñ äâà âåðòåêñíè è ÷åòèðè ïèêñåëíè êîíâåéðà, ÷åñòîòà íà ÿäðîòî 375MHz, 128Mb DDR ïàìåò ñ 256bit-îâ äîñòúï. 9800 Pro ïúê ùå èìà 4 âåðòåêñíè è îñåì ïèêñåëíè êîíâåéðà, ÷åñòîòà íà ÿäðîòî 375-400MHz, ïàìåò 256Mb, ïîääðúæêà íà DX9++ è OpenGL 2.0 è íå íà ïîñëåäíî ìÿñòî ïðèáëèçèòåëíà öåíà îò îêîëî $400.
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5th March 2003 17:44 #6
àç ìàé ñúì íàçàä ñ ìàòåðèàëà è ùå òðÿáâà äà ïîïîãëåäíà òóê òàìå ...
EDIT: òàêàààì åòî êàêâî íàìåðèõ àç òóê ... è ãëåäàì íåùî , ÷å ïàìåòòà çà 9600 ùå å 128 áèòîâà
èëè îò ÀÒÈ îùå íå ñà ðåøèëè ... èëè ùå èìà ðàçëè÷íè âàðèàíòè íà 9600 èëè õîðàòà âñå îùå ãàäàÿò ...
Last edited by Shagrath; 5th March 2003 at 17:50.
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5th March 2003 19:30 #7
ñóïåð, àìà êîãà íàé-ïîñëå ùå ãè ïóñíàò?
àç ÷àêàì çà R9600 ... å àêî ìè ñòèãíàò 200$ ìîæå è PRO, àìà ñå ñúìíÿâàì.
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5th March 2003 22:18 #8Àìè íà ñàéòà íà Ãèãàáàéò êàòî äèñòðèáóòîðè ñà ïîñî÷åíè Àðãóñ è Ìîñò,à êàòî Reseller-è Âàëè è Òîðíàäî.Íàé-äîáðå å äà ñå ïîïèòà ïðè òÿõ çàùî íè "çàëèâàò"Originally posted by genn
ñóïåð, àìà êîãà íàé-ïîñëå ùå ãè ïóñíàò?
àç ÷àêàì çà R9600 ... å àêî ìè ñòèãíàò 200$ ìîæå è PRO, àìà ñå ñúìíÿâàì.
ñ íîâàòà ïðîäóêöèÿ íà Ãèãàáàéò
Õîðàòà, êîèòî ãëàñóâàò çà ÃÅÐÁ, ìíîãî äîáðå çíàÿò, ÷å òîâà å êîðóìïèðàíà ïàðòèÿ. Òå îöåíÿâàò äðóãè ñâîè ëåãèòèìíè èíòåðåñè êàòî ïîâîä è ïðè÷èíà äà ïîäêðåïÿò ÃÅÐÁ.
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6th March 2003 09:35 #9
Ïîâå÷å çà íîâàòà ñåðèÿ ðàäåîíè îò ×è÷îòîìîâàòà êîëèáêà
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030306/index.html
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6th March 2003 09:45 #10
"çàëèâàíåòî" ùå çàïî÷íå íàé-ðàíî ñëåä êðàÿ íà Cebit... Âúïðåêè, ÷å òî òóê íÿìà êîé çíàå êàêâî òúðñåíå íà êàðòèòå îò ïî-âèñîê êëàñ, íàé-âå÷å çàðàäè öåíèòå èì. Ïðè òîâà ïîëîæåíèå å íîðìàëíî äà íå ñå âíàñÿò â ãîëåìè êîëè÷åñòâà èëè äîðè äà ãè íÿìà âúîáùå. Àêî äàäåí äèñòðèáóòîð ñìåòíå ÷å íåìîæå äà ïðîäàäå ãîëÿìî êîëè÷åñòâî, òî íàäàëè ùå ñå âíåñàò ñàìî 10-20 êàðòè ïðèìåðíî, çàùîòî ïå÷àëáàòà îò òàêàâà áðîéêà íÿìà äà å êîé çíàå êàêâà...
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6th March 2003 10:10 #11
Íå çíàì äàëè ñòå ãëåäàëè òåñòîâåòå, îáà÷å àç ìèñëÿ ëÿòîòî êàòî èçëåçå 9800 âåäíàãà äà ñè êóïÿ ... 9700 ÏÐÎ. Ðàçëèêèòå íå ìè èçãëåæäàò êîé çíàå êàêâè, íî â öåíèòå îïðåäåëåíî ùå èìà òàêèâà.
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6th March 2003 11:09 #12
...Âúïðîñúò ìè ñå èçÿñíè ïðåäè äà ãî ïîñòíà...
RV350 ùå å àáñîëþòíî äúðâî..
À òîâà:
"two vertex pipes, with four pixel pipes (one TMU on each)" - òðÿáâà äà ãî óâîëíÿò íàïèñàëèÿ ãî...è íÿêîé äà ìè ãî ïðåâåäå...
Òîâà îáà÷å ìè ïúëíè äóøàòà:
"The 350s have a very special F buffer for storing temporal pixel shader data, it allows for "virtually unlimited" pixel shader length, meaning full OpenGL 2.0 fragment shading and possibly also Renderman shaders, all in hardware."Last edited by geniusloci; 6th March 2003 at 11:16.
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6th March 2003 11:27 #13ìì íå å áàø òàêà ... èç÷åòè ñòàòèÿòà òóê è âèæ âíèìàòåëíî êàêâî ïèøå ... 0,13 ìèêðîíà , êîåòî èì å îñòàâèëî "ìÿñòî" çà îïòèìèçèðàíå íà íÿêîè îò âå÷å ñúùåñòâóâàùèòå òåõíîëîãèè ...Originally posted by GeniusLoci
...Âúïðîñúò ìè ñå èçÿñíè ïðåäè äà ãî ïîñòíà...
RV350 ùå å àáñîëþòíî äúðâî..
À òîâà:
"two vertex pipes, with four pixel pipes (one TMU on each)" - òðÿáâà äà ãî óâîëíÿò íàïèñàëèÿ ãî...è íÿêîé äà ìè ãî ïðåâåäå...
Òîâà îáà÷å ìè ïúëíè äóøàòà:
"The 350s have a very special F buffer for storing temporal pixel shader data, it allows for "virtually unlimited" pixel shader length, meaning full OpenGL 2.0 fragment shading and possibly also Renderman shaders, all in hardware."
"The biggest performance bottleneck of the Radeon 9500 Pro was the fact that the memory interface was still basically half of a 9700 Pro, meaning that all the buffers were still optimized for a 4 x 64-bit memory controller layout and not the 2 x 64-bit configuration that the 9500 Pro actually used. With the RV350, the entire memory interface is optimized and tuned for a 128-bit memory interface, thus extracting a bit more performance out of the core.
The RV350 doesn't stop there, and actually features a superior Hyper-Z engine to what is found in the R350; the reason being that with a 0.13-micron chip you've got more room to play around with and ATI wasn't as constrained with the design of the RV350 as they were with the R300. The end result is that the RV350 features a higher Z compression ratio (8:1 vs. 6:1) and an overall more efficient memory controller; we will have to wait until the 0.13-micron successor of the R350 before see an improved version of the RV350 memory controller in ATI's flagship line.
The RV350 will be made available in two forms - the Radeon 9600 Pro and the Radeon 9600. The Pro will feature a 400MHz core clock and 300MHz DDR memory (effectively 600MHz), while the non-Pro will be clocked at 325/200DDR (effectively 325/400). Note that both of the engine clocks are higher than the Radeon 9500 Pro (45% and 18% for the Pro and non-Pro, respectively), but only the Pro features more raw memory bandwidth. Remember that the Radeon 9500 Pro will enjoy higher fill rates courtesy of its 8-pipe design, but the Radeon 9600 Pro's higher clock rate and significantly improved memory controller should be able to eat into that advantage. " è ò.í. ... è òúé êàòî øåôà ùå å íà CeBIT ìèñëÿ äà ãî þðíà çà 1-2 òàêèâà
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6th March 2003 11:35 #14Ñïîêî áðå - íå å òîëêîç çëå ðàáîòàòà. Òî íå ìîæå âñåêè 6 ìåñåöà ïî 50% îòãîðå. Àêî ìîæåøå âå÷å ùÿõìå äà èãðàåì èãðè ñ ãðàôèêà êàòî îò ôèëìà "Øðåê" èëè "Final Fantasy".Originally posted by GeniusLoci
[B]...Âúïðîñúò ìè ñå èçÿñíè ïðåäè äà ãî ïîñòíà...
RV350 ùå å àáñîëþòíî äúðâî..
Ðàçëèêèòå ìåæäó 9700 è 9800, êàòî ñè ïóñíåø 4õFSAA+8xAniso ñòàâàò ïî-î÷åâèäíè. Íå çíàì çà âàñ, îáà÷å çà ìåí òèÿ ðàáîòè ñà âàæíè çàùîòî ïîäîáðÿâàò ìíîãî êà÷åñòâîòî. Àç ëè÷íî ìíîãî ìðàçÿ äà ãè ãëåäàì òèÿ "òðèîíè" è äà ìè ÷åçíàò òåêñòóðèòå ñëåä 5-6 âèðòóàëíè ìåòðà
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Îñâåí òîâà õîðàòà ñà ïîñòèãíàëè ïúðôîðìàíñà íà FX Ultra, àìà áåç çâóêîâèÿ ñúïðîâîä, êîåòî íå å ìàëêî
Last edited by pe6o; 6th March 2003 at 11:41.
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6th March 2003 11:55 #15
×å êàêâî ìó å ëîøîòî íà çâóêîâèÿ ñúïðîâîä íà FX-à, ñëàãàø ñè äâå òàïè â óøèòå, íàäóâàø íÿêàêâà çäðàâà ìóçèêà è íÿìà äà òè ïðàâè îñîáåííî âïå÷àòåëíèå øóìà...

À òàçè "åêñòðà" ïðè 9x00 ïðîñòî ñà çàáðàâèëè äà ÿ ïðåäâèäÿò ïðè ðàçðàáîòêàòà
P.S. Àç ñìÿòàì, ÷å òðÿáâà äà ïðåäëîæèì íà ôèðìèòå, êîéòî ùå ïóñêàò êàðòè ñ FX, äà âêëþ÷âàò êúì êîìïëåêòà è ïî åäíè òàïè çà óøè è òàêà äà ñè ðåøàò ïðîáëåìà ñ øóìà.
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6th March 2003 12:22 #16
ãëåäàì òîâà è ñå ÷óäÿ êîå å ïî-äîáðå äà ñè âçåìà - Radeon 9500 PRO èëè Radeon 9600 PRO. Íå ñúì ìíîãî íà "òè" ñ õàðäóåðà òà èñêàì äà âè ïèòàì çà âàøåòî ìíåíèå. Íå ïèòàì çà îòíîøåíèåòî öåíà / êà÷åñòâî, à ñàìî çà êîÿ å ïî-äîáðà, çàùîòî ÿâíî è äâåòå ùå ñà ïîä 200$, à àç èìàì òî÷íî òîëêîâà.
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6th March 2003 12:52 #17Ìè òî íà õàðòèÿ íèùî íå ìîæå äà ñå ïðåöåíè. Òðÿáâà íÿêîå ñðàâíåíèå äà èçëåçå è òîãàâà ùå ñå âèäè ðàçëèêàòà. Íî ñèãóðíî ïî-íîâàòà êàðòà ùå å ìàëêî ïî-äîáðà è ìàëêî ïî-ñêúïà. Ïúê è òî äîêàòî ñå äîòúðêàëÿò äî ÁÃ ùå ìèíà âðåìå.Originally posted by genn
ãëåäàì òîâà è ñå ÷óäÿ êîå å ïî-äîáðå äà ñè âçåìà - Radeon 9500 PRO èëè Radeon 9600 PRO. Íå ñúì ìíîãî íà "òè" ñ õàðäóåðà òà èñêàì äà âè ïèòàì çà âàøåòî ìíåíèå. Íå ïèòàì çà îòíîøåíèåòî öåíà / êà÷åñòâî, à ñàìî çà êîÿ å ïî-äîáðà, çàùîòî ÿâíî è äâåòå ùå ñà ïîä 200$, à àç èìàì òî÷íî òîëêîâà.




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