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18th September 2006 16:45 #1
Òåìà çà EPoX MF4 Ultra-3, MF4 Ultra, ÌF4-J, MF4-J3
Àáå...Äíåñêà ãëåäàì ñàéòà íà Åïîêñ è âèæäàì òîâà äúíî. Ñðàâíÿâàì ãî ñ Epox MF4 Ultra - ðàçëèêè íÿìà, íèòî â ñïåöèôèêàöèèòå, íèòî íà âúíøåí âèä (ïîíå íå ñå âèæäàò), â äèçàéíà íà äâåòå äúíà. Êàêâî ñòàâà òóêà? Íå âèæäàì ñìèñúë Åïîêñ äà ïóñêàò äâå ïî÷òè åäíàêâè äúíà...
È ïðè óñëîâèå, ÷å â Jar MF4 Ultra ñòðóâà 164ëâ. êðàéíà öåíà, êîëêî ùå ñòðóâà Ultra-3?
Àêî íÿêîé èìà èíôîðìàöèÿ ïî òîçè âúïðîñ, äà ïèøå òóê. Âïå÷àòëåíèÿ, äàëè ãî èìà â Áà âå÷å, íåùî îò èíòåðíåò...êàêâîòî èìà.
Åòî ñïåöèôèêàöèèòå íà äâåòå äúíà:
Introduction
nForce4 Ultra chipset, ATX size
2.0 GTs HT FSB / DDR2 800 / PCI-E VGA / 8ch audio /
10 USB2.0 / PCI-E x1 / GbE LAN / 4 SATA II RAID
Specification
CPU Socket:
Support Socket-AM2(940 pin) based AMD Athlon-X2/Athlon-64/Sempron processors
Support 2GTs 16X16 wide Hyper Transport bus
Support VMM(Virtualization-Machine-Monitoring)
System Memory:
Four 240-pin unbuffered non-ECC DDR II SDRAM DIMM sockets
Support single-sided or double-sided 1.8v DDR II-533/667/800 DIMMs with dual channel architecture in 256/512Mb/1Gb technologies
Support up to 16 GB system memory
Support Asynchronous clocking mode between FSB and DIMM
Chipset¡G
nVidia nForce4 Ultra Chipset
Expansion Slots:
Three PCI connectors compliant with PCI v2.2
Two PCI Express (x1) connectors compliant with PCI Express 1.0a
One PCI Express (x16) connector compliant with PCI Express 1.0a
USB:
Ten USB connectors compliant with USB2.0 from embedded USB controller (4 connectors at rear panel).
P-ATA IDE:
Two IDE ports (up to 4 IDE devices) with UDMA-33, ATA-66/100/133 support from embedded IDE controller.
S-ATA II RAID:
Four S-ATA II ports from nForce4 Ultra with nV RAID and up to 3.0 Gbps bandwidth, HDD Alert
LAN:
1Gb Ethernet from onboard RTL8111B PCI-E controller
Audio:
Onboard Realtek ALC-85x selectable AC¡¦97 2,6 or 8-CH audio CODEC
Support Front panel audio for Mic-In and stereo Line-out only.
(Front panel Line-out electrically shared with rear panel Line-out).
Support Auto Jack Sensing for fool-proof audio device installation
Support SPDIF Coaxial output.
Support SPDIF Optical output
I/O:
Onboard EPoX EP-1308 LPC I/O controller
Legacy peripheral interface for PS/2 keyboard & mouse, FDD, COM, IrDA (v1.0 compliant), ¡K
Support Hardware Monitoring function such as fan speed monitoring and CPU temperature sensing.
Intelligent fan speed control for CPU-fan (PWM) and Chassis-fan for quiet operation
Support BIOS recovery
BIOS:
4Mb Flash EEPROM with Award Plug & Play BIOS
Support EZ Boot for fast bootable device selection
Support Magic Health for system hardware status report during system boot-up
Special Features:
Support KBPO (Keyboard Power ON) function
Support Wake-On-LAN by PME
Onboard Post-Port LED display
Support CPU Over Heat protect
Support CPU, Chassis and Power FAN speed monitor.
PowerBIOS for excellent over clocking features:
Support Asynchronous FSB/DIMM timing mode
Support BIOS adjustable CPU clock and voltage, DIMM frequency and voltage settings.
Powerful utilities for Windows:
Thunder Probe for system hardware monitoring
Magic Flash for BIOS update without requiring DOS flash utility and bootable diskette
Magic Screen for personal bootup screen design
Form Factor:
305mm x 225mm x 40mm, ATX Size
OS Supported:
Windows 2K/XP(32/64bit)/Server2003(32/64bit)
Ï.Ï. Ïîçâîëèõ ñè äà ïóñíà òåìàòà è çàùîòî îòäåëíà òåìà çà òåçè äúíà íÿìà. À àêî ñúì ïðîïóñíàë äà çàáåëåæà ðàçëèêà ìåæäó äâåòå, ìîëÿ äà ìå èçâèíèòå...
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Òàêà...ïîðàäè ðàçâèòèåòî íà òåìàòà è ïî ïðåäëîæåíèå íà Warrior, ñ êîëåãèòå ðåøèõìå äà "ðàçøèðèì" ìàëêî îáõâàòà íà èíôîðìàöèÿòà êàòî íàïðàâèì åäíà ìíîãî âàæíà äîáàâêà êúì òîçè ïîñò - äà ñúñòàâèì ñïèñúê ñ âñè÷êè ïàìåòè, êîèòî èçïðîáâàíî ðàáîòÿò áåç ïðîáëåì (äîðè ïðè îâúðêëîê íà PC-òî) íà òåçè äâå äúíà. Òîâà å ìíîãî âàæíî òúé êàòî êîíêðåòíèòå ìîäåëè ñà ìàëêî êàïðèçíè îòêúì ïàìåò. Èíôîðàìöèÿòà ùå áúäå åäèòâàíà òóê. Åòî êàêâî çíàåì:
Ïàìåòèòå êîèòî ñòàâàò:
A-data 667 (2õ512Mb è 2õ1Gb)
A-data 800 (2õ512Mb è 2õ1Gb)
PQI 533 (2õ512Mb)Last edited by edakov; 13th November 2006 at 15:53.
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18th September 2006 18:32 #2
Îò ôîðóìà íà ðóñíàöèòå:
"Îòëè÷èå â ðàñïàÿíîì íà ìàòåðèíêå ñåòåâîì êîíòðîëëåðå.
Ðàçëè÷èé ïî ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòè íåò, ïðîñòî ñåòåâûå ÷èïû ðàçíûõ ôèðì"
È àç íå âèæäàì ñìèñúë Åïîêñ äà ïóñêàò äâå åäíàêâè äúíà, íî òå ñè çíàÿò. Ultra-3 ãî èìà â öåíîâàòà ëèñòà íà JMT.Last edited by botroid; 18th September 2006 at 19:13.
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18th September 2006 19:03 #3
îôòîïèê
À íÿêîé èìà ëè "ïðåäñòàâà" õàðòèåíèÿò Îïòèìóñ EP-MD580 XR êîãà ùå "âèäè" áÿë ñâÿò. Çà ñåãà âèñè êàòî íîâèíà, íî âñå îùå ãî íÿìà â ïðîäóêòëèñòà. ÀÌÄ äà íå ñà ñïðÿëè Àòè ÷èïñåòèòå è äà ðàáîòÿò ñàìî âúðõó Ð600
Íå îãðàíè÷àâàì ïðàâîòî âè íà óäîâîëñòâèå îò âèñîêè ñêîðîñòè, îòñòîÿâàì ïðàâîòî ñè íà æèâîò ïî ïúòèùàòà!
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18th October 2006 17:38 #4Àáå íå å ÿñíî. Íå âèæäàø ëè, ÷å è òå íåùî ìàé ñà ãî çàêúñàëè çäðàâî (íàïîìíÿò ìè íà äðóãè ôèðìè, êîèòî òàêà áÿõà ïðåäè äà ãè êóïÿò) çàùîòî èìàò íÿêïëêî "âÿëè" ìîäåëà äúíà, ïðîñòî êîëêîòî òàì äà èìà çà ïðîòîêîëà è äà ñå âîäè, ÷å âñå îùå ïðàâÿò íåùî. Íÿìà è ïîìåí îò òîçè Epox îò ïðåäè ãîäèíà, êîãàòî èìàõà èçîáèëèå îò ìîäåëè äúíà (è òî òîï ìîäåëè - îò âèñîêèÿ êëàñ) çà s939.
Originally Posted by Nerd
Last edited by acdc; 18th October 2006 at 17:46.
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18th September 2006 19:43 #5Àêî îáè÷àø, ïðåâåäè ãî êàêòî ìîæåø òîâà, ÷å íå äîñòèãàì äî ñìèñúëà...
Originally Posted by botroid
À JMT ñ 10-íà $ ïîâå÷å ãè ïðîäàâàò, â Jar å 164ëâ. êðàéíà, êîåòî ïðè 1.6 êóðñ íà $ å êúì 102$.ASRock Z68 Pro 3 / Core I3 2100 (ex Q9550) / 4Gb Kingstîn HyperX 1600Mhz / Sapphire 4870X2 / 1TB HDD Hitachi / CFT 750W-14CS / BenQ 21.5" [1920x1080]
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18th September 2006 19:48 #6Ðàçëèêàòà å âúâ âãðàäíèÿ ìðåæîâ êîíòðîëåð. Ðàçëèêè âúâ ôóíêöèîíàëíîñòòà íÿìà, ïðîñòî ìðåæîâèòå ÷èïîâå ñà íà ðàçëè÷íè ôèðìè."Îòëè÷èå â ðàñïàÿíîì íà ìàòåðèíêå ñåòåâîì êîíòðîëëåðå.
Ðàçëè÷èé ïî ôóíêöèîíàëüíîñòè íåò, ïðîñòî ñåòåâûå ÷èïû ðàçíûõ ôèðì"
99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs...
Knock one down, and test it again, 100 little bugs in the codå...
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18th September 2006 20:55 #7
Ñìèñúëà å äà íå ñå áúðêàò BIOS-èòå. Õèòðî! Ùîì Lan êîíòðîëåðèòå ñà ðàçëè÷íè, òàêà ùå å ìíîãî ïî-ëåñíî äà ñå îïðàâè ÷îâåê.
Stability itself is nothing else than a more sluggish motiîn
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18th September 2006 21:05 #8Áèâà ñè ãî äúíöåòî . Ïðèñòèãà ñ âåíòèëàòîð÷å , à íå êàêòî å íà ñàéòà -áåç âåíò íà ðàäèàòîðà íà ÷èïñåòà . Íà åäíà öåíà ñà ñ Epox MF4 Ultra , ïðîñòî ðàçëèêàòà å ìèíèìàëíà . Íà êàêâî å ñïîñîáíî äúíîòî ñúì ïèñàë òóê òàì èç ôîðóìà .
Originally Posted by edakov
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18th September 2006 21:29 #9
Èñêàì è àç äà ïîïèòàì íåùî
Èìà ëè ðàçëèêà ÂÚÂ ÂÚÇÌÎÆÍÎÑÒÈÒÅ ÇÀ ÊËÎÊ íà òåçè 2 äúíà:
EPOX MF4 - s.AM2, NForce4, PCI-E, 4xDDR2, Dual channel, 6channel audio, GBLan, 4xSATA RAID, ATX - 80.00 USD
EPOX MF4 Ultra - s.AM2, NForce4 Ultra, PCI-E, 4xDDR2, Dual channel, 8channel audio, GBLan, 4xSATA2 RAID, ATX - 90.00 USD
10õ ïðåäâàðèòåëíî, íå èñêàì äà ïóñêàì íîâà òåìà ñàìî çàðàäè òîâà, è ïèòàì òóê
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19th September 2006 00:14 #10
Òî òàêîâà äúíî ñàìî MF4 ìàé íÿìà, äà íå ãîâîðèø çà MF4-J?
Àêî çà íåãî ãîâîðèø, ðàçëèêàòà å ÷å òî å ñ 6 êàíàëåí çâóê è ÷èïñåòúò ìó å nForce4 4X, êàêâàòî è äà å ðàçëèêàòà ñ Ultra âåðñèÿòà íà ÷èïñåòà.
WARRIOR, ïðåêðàñíî èçãëåæäàò è äâåòå äúíà, áðàâî íà òåá, ÷å ñè ðèñêóâàë è ñè êóïèë òîçè ìàëêî ñòðàíåí ñïîðåä ìåí ìîäåë
Âàæíîòî å ÷å ôóíêöèîíàëíî è êàòî âúçìîæíîñòè äâåòå äúíà íå ñå ðàçëè÷àâàò. Ñêîðî è àç ìîæå äà ñå ñäîáèÿ ñ åäíî òàêîâà äúíî, ìíîãî ìè äîïàäà êàê ñà íàïðàâåíè è äâåòå...Ìàêàð è ñúñ ñòàðèÿ ÷èïñåò.
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19th September 2006 08:08 #11Ako íå ñêî÷èø íà Conroe å èíòåðåñíà èãðà÷êà òîâà äúíî è òîçè ïðîöåñîð , à àêî ðåøèø äà ïî÷àêàø äà ñå î÷îâå÷àò öåíèòå íà Conroe , ñúùî íÿìà äà å ãðåøêà /âèæäàì ÷å èìàø ïî÷òè ñúùîòî â êóòèÿòà êàòî ìîåòî /, íî àêî âèäèø êàêâî çâåð÷å å äúíöåòî , íÿìà äà ñå ñäúðæèø äà ñè ãî âçåìåø , òàêà ÷å òè ãî ïðåïîðú÷âàì. Íå çíàÿ äî êîëêî HTT ñòèãà äúíîòî , íî âå÷å ñè ìèñëÿ äà èçðàáîòÿ ïîäõîäÿùà ùèïêà çà âîäíîòî è äà èçëÿçà íà ïîðåäåí ðóíä ñðåùó áðàòÿòà ...íàöè , ìîæå áè ñ ïî-ñâÿñòíî îõëàæäàíå ùå íàïðàâè è îùå , à íå ìè ñå êóïóâàò ðàçíè õëàäèëíèöè áåç äà ñúì ñèãóðåí ÷å ùå ñà åôåêòèâíè .Èíà÷å ãëåäàì òîâà -
Originally Posted by edakov
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íî ðåâþòî íàïðàâî êðåùè "Íå êóïóâàé !!!" , èíà÷å òðÿáâà äà å íàïîëîâèíà ïî-åâòèí îò ñåáåïîäîáíèòå ñè ñúáðàòÿ îò ïîäîáåí êëàñ , ìîæå áè ìåäåí íÿìà äà å òîëêîâà ïîñðåäñòâåí , è êà÷åñòâîòî å çëå , íî íàëè çà òîâà ñà øêóðêèòå , à è ìàøèíà çà øëàéô ìîæå äà ñå èçìèñëè.
Íå çíàÿ â êàêâî ñúñòîÿíèå å îõëàæäàíåòî íà ÷èïñåòà , ìîæå áè íîñè ïîíå íà ìàëêî AS 5 .
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19th September 2006 08:45 #12Åìè àç ãî âèäÿõ òîçè ìîäåë â öåíîâàòà ëèñòà íà Ñòèëòåõ http://stealtech.org/index.php?p=2&i=2750 , íî â ñàéòà íà åïîêñ íàèñòèíà íÿìà òàêîâà æèâîòíî... (ñàìî MF4 Ultra i MF4-J) Ñèãóðíî òðÿáâà äà å ñúùîòî...
Originally Posted by edakov
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19th September 2006 10:55 #13
WARRIOR êàòî ãëåäàì ìÿé íå ñå ðàçëè÷àâàò ìíîãî êîíôèãóðàöèéòå íè.
Ñàìî ìè å èíòåðåñíî ïàìåòà ñàìî åäíà ïëî÷êà ëè å?
Çà äà âèäÿ äàëè ïðè ìåí â åäíî êàíàëåí ðåæèì ùå ìîãà äà íàäñêî÷à ñìúðòîíîñíèòå çà PQI 365 øèíà..Jetway IP35-SG|E6300@4,3Ghz|4x1GB|Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum|2xSamsung HD300LJ RAID 0|NEC 2070NX
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28th September 2006 10:00 #14Îùå åäíà çàáåëÿçàíà ðàçëèêà ìåæäó äúíàòà , äîêîëêîòî ðàçáðàõ Epox MF4 Ultra äàâà âúçìîæíîñò ñà ñå ïîäàäå íàïðåæåíèå íà ïðîöåñîðà äî +0.4  , à Epox MF4 Ultra-3 äî +0.2 Â, êîåòî ñå ÿâÿâà ìàëêî íåóäîáñòâî ïðè êëîê , äîêîëêîòî âèäÿõ , ïðè ïîäàâàíå íà äîïúëíèòåëíî íàïðåæåíèå ñåìïðîí÷åòàòà "ñå îò÷èòàò" ñ ìåãàõåðöè , òàêà ÷å îùå 0.1  íÿìà äà å èçëèøåí , à îòòàì íàãîðå ñòàâàò âå÷å äîñòà åêñòðåìíè íåùàòà . Íå çíàÿ äàëè ñ ïîñëåäâàù áèîñ ìîæå äà ñå ñúçäàäå âúçìîæíîñò çà îùå ìàëêî íàïðåæåíèå , íî íå áè áèëî èçëèøíî .
Originally Posted by edakov
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1st October 2006 18:08 #15
Èñêàì äà ïèòàì òîâà âúïðîñíîòî øóìíî âåíòèëàòîð÷å íå ìîæå ëè ïðîñòî äà ñå ñìåíè ñ äðóãî, ñëåä êîåòî äà ñå âúðíå àêî èìà ïðîáëåì ñ äúíîòî è òðÿáâà äà õîäè íà ãàðàíöèîíåí ðåìîíò? MF4 Ultra (áåç 3) èìà ëè ïðîáëåì ñ òàêîâà âåíòèëàòîð÷å, èëè âúîáùå íÿìà âåíòèëàòîð÷å.  êðàéíà ñìåòêà ñìàçâàíåòî ìó âúðøè ëè ðàáîòà? È ïîñëåäíèÿ êîìåíòàð íà WARRIOR, ÷å ìîæå äà äàâà ïî-ìàëêî V-core îò íå-òðîéêàòà âåðåí ëè å?
I mourn thee by dusk | I mourn thee by dawn
Crave for thy gloss | to seek the silent glades beyond
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1st October 2006 18:12 #16
Äúíîòî å ñ âåíòèëàòîð÷å, âúïðåêè ñíèìêèòå â ñàéòà. Âåíòèëàòîð÷åòî íå ïðè âñåêè øóìè, ïðèÿòåë ñè âçå íàñêîðî, íå ñå å îïëàêâàë îò øóì.
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1st October 2006 18:15 #17Çà MF4 Ultra ili ÌÔ4 Ultra-3? Òîâà âåíòèëàòîð÷å ñòàíäàðòíî ëè å - ò.å. ìîæå ëè äà ñå ïîäìåíè, èëè å âãðàäåíî ïî ñïåöèàëåí íà÷èí êúì ðàäèàòîðà?
Originally Posted by edakov
I mourn thee by dusk | I mourn thee by dawn
Crave for thy gloss | to seek the silent glades beyond
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1st October 2006 18:19 #18
Çà MF4 Ultra ãîâîðÿ, íå ñúì îáúðíàë âíèìàíèå íà òàêèâà ïîäðîáíîñòè, äà êàæå íÿêîé äðóã.
Last edited by edakov; 1st October 2006 at 18:39.
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1st October 2006 18:35 #19Íå å âúçìîæíà ïîäìÿíà , âãðàäåíî å ñðåä ðåáúðöàòà íà ðàäèàòîðà . MF4 Ultra -3 äàâà íàïðåæåíèå íà ïðîöåñîðà äî + 0.2 Â .
Originally Posted by Lan
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1st October 2006 22:48 #20Âåíòèëàòîð÷åòî øóìè ïðè âñåêè, íî âúçïðèåìàíåòî íà øóìà å ñóáåêòèâíî è íÿêîè ñå äðàçíÿò îò íåãî, äðóãè íå.
Originally Posted by edakov
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2nd October 2006 14:42 #21
Íÿêîé äà çíàå êúäå â Ñîôèÿ èìà EpoX MF4 Ultra-3.Îò 10 äíè òúðñÿ áåç ðåçóëòàò.Ìåðñè.
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2nd October 2006 20:31 #22Àç èìàì íà ÷èïñåòà âåíòèëàòîð÷å, ïî íèêàêúâ íà÷èí íå ãî ÷óâàì, ïîðàäè êîåòî ñúäÿ ÷å íå å ïîâå÷å îò 20-22db, ïîðàäè êîåòî ïúê êàçâàì, ÷å íå øóìè
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26th October 2006 21:22 #23
Åâòèíî çàõðàíâàíå çà Epox MF4 Ultra3?
çäðàâåéòå, ïî÷òè ñè ñãëîáèõ íîâî ïö, ñ Epox mf4 ultra 3 è Sempron, vga 7300le..îáùî âçåòî ñðåäíà ðàáîòà. Òà ìè îñòàíàõà ìàëêî ïàðè, èñêàì äà ìè êàæåòå êîå å íàé-åâòèíîòî çàõðàíâàíå êîåòî ùå ñòàâà ñ òîâà äúíî? ãëåäàì èìà ðàçíè Ôîðòðîíè ìàé ïî 25-30$ áÿõà..òîâà íàïðèìåð:
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26th October 2006 21:46 #25
À, áåç JNC, êîíôèãóðàöèÿòà ìàêàð è ñðåäíà ðàáîòà íå ñòðóâà íèêàê ìàëêî, è ïî-äîáðå äà íå ãðúìíå çàðàäè áîìáàòà ñëîæåíà â çàõðàíâàíåòî â êèòàéñêèÿ ãàðàæ êúäåòî ñå ïðàâè. Ôîðòðîí ùå òè ñâúðøè ðàáîòà, íàé-äîáðî çà öåíàòà ñè ñïîðåä ìåí å 350W PNF, ùå èìàø è ðåçåðâ çà ñëåäâàùèÿ úïãðåéä.
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